Manual trucks?

There are people who come here just to complain about the auto because they didn't want to switch anyway. But considering 95% of new trucks are sold with autos and VERY few break down, then they must be reliable.

You act like manuals never have problems. I can show threads on this forum of people who had problems with manuals, as well. Does that prove they all suck? If not, why does it for autos?

 

This thread is titled Manual Transmissions I didn’t come here to complain Your the one that made the silly statement that automatics never break down I simply called you out on that specific comment You sure like to spin everything in your favor
I never ever said manuals never break down in fact you the one that is claiming Automatics are completely trouble free . That’s what started this debate I simply pointed out that their are not completely trouble free You the one that seems to have your panties bunched up

 

I have no experience with automatics, but I have listened to enough people here that say some clearly have problems. It can be for a slew of reasons, who knows, put it in reverse at 50. I'm sure many, MANY haul the freight everyday with no problems. To say manuals never break, however, there is actually merit to that. Considering how long manuals have been around, and the abuse they took over the years, one could say, yes, statistically they never break. Manual transmissions with MILLIONS of miles, still in service. I'd have to think an automatic was made to be a problem, and a whole new group of transmission crooks are just waiting. It's the classic "rock and a hard spot". Companies need automatics to bring in drivers because inexperience is the kiss of death for a manual.

 

Wrong!! it has everything to do with the class of drivers and nothing to do with the price of diesel.

The dumbing down of the driver is a fact, we as an industry have the lowest standards for drivers than we ever had, even Mcdonald's would not hire some of these people to clean toilets.

At the very same time, average fleet fuel mileage has risen above the 7.5 mark. The reason for the increase in mileage is the new ways the fuel is managed through the software.

Good for you, I have a majority of 18 speeds in my fleet, a percentage of 13 speeds and 10/9/8 speeds and very few automatics. I have had OK luck with the automatics but when they break, they are down for the count and hard to get back up.

Yes I pay extra but then I won't hire drivers who don't know how to drive one.

That's part of the problem, it drives like an SUV and not a truck which brings the issue right back to the driver. Many of these new drivers are lazy to begin with and they treat this all like driving a car which is a very bad thing.

 

Well, yeah, but that's the difference between a 15 liter motor and a 13 liter motor......

I'd bet that with a manual and using PROGRESSIVE SHIFTING techniques, you can get the same fuel economy numbers that an automatic gets. Plus, that transmission would cost how many thousand dollars less to purchase initially? With experience, many drivers learn how to float nearly every gear after 1st, so really only stop-and-go traffic should be worse with a manual.

 

No, thats the difference between a human shifted tranny and a computer shifted tranny. No matter the displacement of the motor, my engine makes about the same HP as the 15 liter DD did, but gets 20% better fuel mileage in the REGULAR driving mode. When I put it on economy, the mileage gets ridiculous. It's far smarter than just "when it shifts." It takes terrain into account, weight, etc. In super economy mode it gets a bit sluggish but if I need to stretch fuel like up in the northeast, I'll do it and I've easily hit 13mpg with a lightly loaded trailer.

No, manuals are considered an upgrade and have to be special ordered, meaning they cost MORE than automatics.

 

Gearing wasn’t the same

 

Very close. RPMs at cruise were almost identical. And I've seen my fuel mileage go UP when I downshifted manually from 12 to 11th gear.

I find it funny the double standard being applied to these transmissions. If an auto has a problem, they all suck, but I point out manuals have their own problems and people defend them like they're bulletproof and say it doesn't matter.

It's a fools game.

 

20% better ????????? lmao I call BS
Show me proof

 

My old truck got 7mpg fully loaded, 79980lbs. My new truck gets 9.2 same exact weight on the same roads. Do the math. I'm actually being generous at 7 for the old truck. That would be very flat land like I55 through Mizzou. Realistically it got about 6.5 but I'll be nice.

It's actually 24% but I rounded down.