Manual vs Automatic Transmissions

Why would Eaton want to be left out of any market? If a percentage of transmission buyers want automatics why would Eaton neglect that market? I don't see you point. When Eaton sells there automated manuals they sell a manual transmission plus a computer to control it. More components, more profit, more customers.

They do not need to. They have a great reputation and almost no competition.

Read there adds:http://www.allisontransmission.com/home/tc10

Some very large markets demand a automatic. Eaton would like a piece of that market with their automatic (automated manual). I do not see what is 'weird' about that. If you develop a product would you want to sell it to as many people as possible?

I don't know why you need to subdivide the classifications further, but yes I am familiar with all three of your classifications. Until very recently, Allison did not produce anything for the class 8 trucks we talk about most often here. Yes, I know some Allisons did find there way into class 8s. But it was not their idea. My comments applied to all generalizations, but even more so to the Allison bus transmissions.

 

Search back thru this thread to page 12 I think, I posted my experience with the one I have. I've grown to like it considerably, but it does have some nuances to feel out when you drive it.

 

Ahh! The good old days! Automatics WILL be the future. I personally feel its more how ya park 'em that makes the trucker. Autos are just new technology. Who longs for the days of hard seats, no power anything, sleeping in a rack slung under your box, lets get rid of a/c too??? (I'd love to learn to run a old twin stick for fun!)
I think if you tested for a company, ground some gears, but could back down a 's' shaped driveway, and slide it into the hole, they'd hire you in a heartbeat!
Tom

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ksWKOy665o

 

Wyldhorses is that you?

 

Just got my new 2014 Volvo with D13 engine and ishift. Never goin' back. That thing is so ###### smart it ain't funny. Senses the load pull and adjusts revs and skips gears accordingly, handles down hill adjusting engine brake and even downshifting as needed. I feel like I'm working about half as hard as I used to, especially when I'm pullin' hills with some weight on. Often it has shifted 3 times while I am turning a corner, something I could never do manually. I thought I had pretty much mastered a 13 speed, but this thing beats me for shifting smarts hands down. Drivers who turn em down in favor of manuals are fighting a losing battle. I give manual shift about 3 years to die out altogether.

 

3 years to die out is a bit of a stretch, for sure. But I agree, that manuals will not be the king of the hill in time. Many folks just can't deal with change so they rail and whine against something new, no matter how good it might be. And those that prefer to remain purists to what they feel a truck should be will not go for some new technology. And that is all fine and dandy. There will be something for everyone. I am probably on my last manual trans myself. If I do ever order another truck, I most likely will get an AMT or Automatic in it. Just not sure which right now, and I can watch what changes they make to each between now and then and see which design I want. I know Volvo is out, primarily because it is a proprietary design, only in Volvo trucks, and I have no desire to buy a Volvo truck.

 

just beware of some of the changes they make to the auto's

us xpress stopped getting auto's because of a change that was made to the 2010 auto's...... all 2,100 trucks they got in 2010 had bad auto's.... they would eat the clutch up in less than 100,000 miles...

 

Then simply the problem with auto and manual mainly is EATON.

unreliable auto & outdated manual