Massive parts prices increase 10-300% after Jan 1

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by DUNE-T, Jan 12, 2023.

  1. D.Tibbitt

    D.Tibbitt Road Train Member

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    thats not what im saying. right to repair is the manufacture's giving the customers the right to repair the vehcle, access to parts systems and part numbers as well as software...it goes way beyond vehicle markets and into the tech markets as well... and its very important for people to understand that we as consumers need that right.
     
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  3. Siinman

    Siinman Road Train Member

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    I get pretty good discounts as a single truck owner op but I have a great relationship with the manager and that goes a long ways.
     
  4. DUNE-T

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    I don't own a shop. Other shop owners used to let me buy parts on their account. Then after few years when everyone at Volvo knew my face, I opened my own account and got the same discount. Mine is not the highest though since I don't do enough volume. There is a level above me, they get like another 10-15% off, but their volume is hundreds of thousands dollars per year, I am talking fleets with hundreds of trucks and very busy repair shops
     
  5. Siinman

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    Volvo allows anyone to buy the software and access to all the part numbers. I understand what you mean with John Deer and I believe they just agreed to let them get the software or something.
     
  6. D.Tibbitt

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    the point im trying to get to is that just because volvo or whatever manufacturer is selling those parts.. are they the ones making them? how many OEM parts are being made by other manufacturers? why does volvo or any other manufacturer have a monopoly over selling those parts? and why do they have the ability to block access to other parts houses to sell those parts, or block the ability for the consumer to have access to repair diagrams and part numbers or any information pertaining to the repair of a certain part or system..? by giving dealers their money back, you are supporting a slow death of the ability to repair your own vehichle... if they had it their way, they would block access to any shops or independent customer repairing their own vehicle. which is exactly what tesla is doing.... it is a huge problem
     
  7. Siinman

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    Well I would guess if they engineered that part, they should have the rights to that part. Why would anyone waste all the money to create something and then just give it away to everyone? Now if they had nothing to do with making it or designing it and it is an off the shelf part I can understand that being an issue. But I do not believe any company is trying to do that.
     
  8. DUNE-T

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    I think it's a bit different compare to what you are talking about. Volvo does not do the same. They can give me a software, where I can lookup all the part numbers and diagrams, the problem is those parts are are not getting sold anywhere else, because some manufacturers make them specifically for Volvo trucks.
    The same with Freightliner. You can register your vin and lookup your own part numbers, but you can't buy them anywhere else, unless it's aftermarket.
     
  9. Long FLD

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    It’s basically patent and trademark stuff. There are probably only a few factories producing the majority of the parts and it all gets branded and boxed accordingly.

    Let’s say Paccar develops a part for their trucks, it could be getting produced in a factory right alongside Volvo parts, but that doesn’t mean the factory can just sell the same thing to Volvo if they want it.

    I mean, they could I guess, but I bet everyone has legal teams watching that stuff like a hawk.
     
  10. D.Tibbitt

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    you dont believe that? every car and truck and manufacturer of any equipment or technology is fighting tooth and nail against you right now.... they would love nothing more than to cut off all your access to their parts and software and anything else... this would put all independent shops out of business... why do you think there is very few independent shops that work on electric cars? because there is no access to parts or software outside of the manufacturers..and the ones that are in business arent doing repairs the recommended way....they are litterally impossible to work on, without that software and access to parts. which they have no obligation to provide...it is only going to get worse from here if people keep supporting organizations like that....
     
  11. wichris

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    Quite a few manufacturers of parts have end user agreements for X amount of time.
     
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