Maverick: Want to hear why people are quiting

Well lets see now, I make .49 loaded and empty, 54 if oversize. I tarp maybe 4 times a year, plus I get paid for extra stops. Oh yeah my tarp pay is $75, who did u say made the most money now, lol

 

Krom does. He's the best and you guys are all the worst, weren't you paying attention. You'd better start, there is going to be a test later.

 

That's a test I'll gladly fail....!

 

Tell that to Maverick, they don't allow any twists for any reason. You must know something they don't. I didn't work for them so I allowed a twist or two occasionally if it was too much trouble to make it flat. A loose twisted strap will be buzzing just about the same. It's not twisting, it's tension that keeps a strap from excessive buzzing. Twisting straps to prevent buzz in an urban trucking legend that is kept alive by the super truckers who never watch their loads in mirrors.

Just think, if you can, if twisting doesn't fray straps then you can twist a strap 20 times over, tighten it up and expect no damage to a strap. Even a old school guy like you doesn't do that because instinctive common sense tramps ignorance. Twisting a strap a couple of times damages/fray straps, the damage is much smaller but it accumulates. Actually, I talked to a small fleet owner (5 trucks) who told me that he allows twisting only if a driver owns those straps. So, some old school guys do use their heads once in a while.

I never was scammed by Boyd, I haven't heard of anyone I talked to been scammed by Boyd. Yup, they haul VARIETY of flatbed loads medium range in slow underpowered trucks, and that's just too much work for me after 2 years.

You don't even know my loads. And (according to you) you avoid challenging loads that take lots of time and work. Yet, you are a treasure chest of flatbed efficiency wisdom and insights? How come?

We were talking about fast and extra work time that NON PICKY flatbed drivers put in, now we are talking about you being good and me being bad and slow. You deducted from your crystal ball that I wasn't good because at some point I got tired of putting hours of extra work for no pay. Amazing train of thought you have over there.

It doesn't look like you like lots of extra work either, you avoid extra work by cherry picking loads, I avoid extra work by switching jobs. Yet, you blow a trumpet for flatbed trucking the full beauty of which you prefer to avoid.

Again, groundless personal assumptions and poorly veiled insults. YET, you do NOT want to haul variety of flatbed crap to prove that hustle and bustle would make any difference on a 18 bale load of scrap sitting on side of a busy street (just an example). You just make stupid assumptions based on me being tired of extra work (you avoid in the first place).

You come here and tell all of us that you are not an idiot to do general commodity flatbedding because you care about your bottom line. After that you turn around and tell me that you are pissed off because I'm telling that I'm no longer "Interested" in general commodity flatbedding and putting hundreds of extra work hours (for free). You are not friendly with logic, aren't you?

Assumptions, assumptions, assumptions. I've made an average flatbed wage, it's not 60K but it's not Werner wages either. I delivered safely and on time, I (over) secured comparable loads at the same speed (or faster) as seasoned Owner Ops. As I said, if you love working more for less, you can't go wrong with REAL flatbedding. But I guarantee that at some point you'll be tired, very tired.

 

Well that tells me all I need to know right there. It's a provable fact on a load where you have long open areas of strap (i.e. hauling 3 stacked flatbed trailers) that putting a twist on each side prevents strap movement. If you don't your straps will vibrate non stop while you go down the road, no matter how tight you have them.

 

Who lets their straps get loose?

Once again your ignorance is showing.

Yet again...Your ignorance of why things are done is stunning.

You could twist it a hundred times and it won't hurt it as long as the edges are protected from sharp points that could cut them.

I don't twist them up because on most loads it's unecessary to....The exception being when a strap is over a high load it ought to have a single twist on each side to prevent the "guitar string" effect that occurs when a flat surface (such as a strap) is subjected to high wind (such as a truck moving at highway speeds)

The fact that you don't understand this is yet more proof that you weren't any good at flatbedding.

That's the first time in my life that anyone has ever said that to me....It's just not the case that if a guy puts a single twist in a strap that it'll eventually cause that strap to wear.

You ought to hear some of the goofy ideas the guy that I'm leased to has...He owns about 9 trucks.
Just because someone has more than one truck does not make them an authority on these matters.

Yes....Yes we do.

Comprehension problems too?

At no point did I say that Boyd would scam you.

Never got to the end of my post eh?
The part where I mentioned that I have hauled that stuff but decided for business that you could never comprehend that they were a "loser deal" and weren't worth putting on a truck.

I cherry pick loads based on revenue and what the load does to my equipment.
One reason I avoid scrap like the plague is because it pays bad and it's rough on equipment...I won't haul hay because it pays bad.

See above....

Again....See above...

Your lack of comprehension is stunning...
Where did I say that I was pissed that you were leaving flatbedding?

Quite the contrary...You have done this side of the business a favor by getting out.
I find it irritating that you insist that nobody can do it efficiently because you couldn't figure out how or that we're all fools because we have been able to do well where you obviously failed.

You can keep thinkin' that if it makes you feel better but by your own admission you took longer to do what you did that anyone I know.

I make very good money and finally you said something that makes sense..."You can't go wrong with REAL flatbedding".

So when will I get tired?

After close to 40 years I haven't.

 

Why is strap movement going down the road a problem?


Because it will lead to Frayed and cut straps, The exact thing that Krom says that twisting them will cause.

 

Theres so many things that play into the miles you can run in a week. The company I was with only had a total of 40 trucks with only 25 of those pullin flatbed. Sittin around waiting for a load almost didn't exist. If I did have to wait I might've had enough time to walk into a truckstop and buy a coke before my phone was ringing. There were weeks that I had my whole week on the road planned out when I got my dispatch on Monday morning. I never messed with steel or lumber mills alot. Most of our loads were oilfield, aviation, or hazardous waste. I wasn't saying every flatbedder out there should be able to average those miles. That would be almost idiotic.

 

Krom. i dunno what u was hauling when u was doing flatbed brother. But 3 hours, are u kidding me. Hell i been doing flatbed for 8 years. I rarely sit any longer than an hour loading. Except Houston pipe yards. But I havent had less than 2800 miles in the last year. and i make dam good money. And my personal opinion. Is van and reefer guys, Just a buncha door swingers who couldnt handle it in the flatbed world. Like i said, my personal opinion. I wouldnt do anything other than flatbed. Oh and by the way. If its taking any of you guys anymore than an hour and half, u strap and tarp..... U need to practice more. I strap and tarp in no more than an hour. TOPS>....

 

A coil load tarp and secured 30 min. lumber load 45 min. to one hour. I work for maverick and on some load yes you need to twist the straps. Like the old saying goes a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing and you're fully loaded. The only reason I won't pull a box I'm too lazy to open and close the doors.