Maxxforce 7 engine - coolant in oil

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  1. truckjob99

    truckjob99 Bobtail Member

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    First, we have problem with this International truck 2 months ago. It was broken down, engine didn't start. One mechanic told its low pressure pump. He replaced it, but truck was still dead. Then another mechanic was looking 2 days for air leaks or any other leaks. Then he told it's bad high pressure pump. After replacing, truck runs good, but not so long.

    Weak ago engine starts shutting down 3-5 minutes after start. It was like we didn't have enough fuel delivery pressure and injection control pressure. The guy who installed new high pressure pump said it could be bad icp sensor or ipr.

    Also we cleaned dpf filter because we had regen every 700-900 miles. We had oil in intercooler going from turbo. We replaced turbo. Also we had oil from crankcase breather filter, so it was replaced also. $650 for that filter, I hate you, International.

    After we did all this, installed new turbo and start engine, it was smoking somewhere ahead turbo, air or exhaust leaking. Next day we continued testing this truck. We started engine, no air leaking. I noticed fault code - high diesel oxygen catalyst temperature or something like this - temperature was near 550-650F. Then this fault disappeared. After few minutes of working engine starts working roughly, sounds like additional knocking at n engine. Then I saw smoke from engine (near turbo) and turned off engine. After this I turn down n engine again, after 30 seconds I saw warn dashboard light "low coolant level". I turned engine off. It was low coolant level. I looked under truck and see dropped oil or coolant near oil filter. But it was not so much and I had almost empty coolant tank. And I saw coolant level drops. I checked oil level, it was very high. When we added water, 2 gallons, it dropped in 20 seconds and we had completely empty coolant tank. So it goes to crankcase very fast.

    Any thoughts about all this will be very appreciated. I'm sick with this piece of International truck. We have couple another trucks, but International is the worst for now.

    I guess it can be burning coolant smoke from engine/turbo side. When we checked turbo, it was oil in turbo again and looks like this oil goes from crankcase breather. First thought was bad head gasket. But truck was not overheated. It could not be overheated, it was on yard, we just tested it after replaced turbo. I never saw 2 gallons goes away in 20 seconds. It looks like big leak goes straight to crankcase. Where its leaking?
    Any thoughts about all this will be very appreciated.
     
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  3. boneebone

    boneebone Road Train Member

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    A engine doesn't have to overheat to have a bad head gasket.

    The EGR cooler could be eating your coolant.
     
  4. BoxCarKidd

    BoxCarKidd Road Train Member

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    Hoglund Bus on you tube has some detailed information on testing those fuel systems. For coolant in oil believe I would pull the pan first. Pressurize cooling system and look for the leak. Is there anything else to test that is less work first?
     
  5. jake744

    jake744 Light Load Member

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    Those engines are bad about eating the front cover up behind the water pump and dumping coolant in the oil pan. Pop the water pump out and have a look.thats only place I can think that much water could get in oil pan that fast.
     
  6. Justrucking2

    Justrucking2 Road Train Member

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    Pull the motor and swap with a Cummins, there are a few shops doing that. Shoot for a CM-870. Give Haggai Diesel a call in Griffin GA, right outside of Atalanta... (678) 688-8107

    That MaxxFart is junk.
     
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  7. truckjob99

    truckjob99 Bobtail Member

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    You think it can be bad water pump?
     
  8. lilillill

    lilillill Sarcasm... it's not just for breakfast

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    Remove the oil cap and fill the motor with 87 octane unleaded gasoline. All of the coolant will rise to the top. Then, light the breather tube with a propane torch until all of the coolant is expelled from the oil cap.

    Once the external block temperature reaches 13,000 degrees, all of the cast iron and aluminum can be recycled and used to make a real motor... like a Cat or Cummins.

    Seriously, don’t spend one more nickel on that motor... junk it.
     
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  9. jake744

    jake744 Light Load Member

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    Not water pump. It's the housing the water pump sits in that corrodes and eats out.
     
  10. Steel Dragon

    Steel Dragon Road Train Member

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    “The Bitterness of Poor Quality Remains Long After the Sweetness of Low Price is Forgotten”
     
  11. jake744

    jake744 Light Load Member

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    The maxxforce 7 is a problem child but what isn't with the name maxxforce. It's the engine navistar supplied ford other wise none as 6.4 power stroke and it was a steaming pile in fords super duties. They had major regen issues that diluted the oil with fuel prematurely wearing all internal hard parts especially the overhead. The common rail fuel systems were also unreliable and would #### the bed sending metal through entire fuel system.
    I've seen tons of these things blown up in terra stars.
     
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