I was taught that by my trainer as well. I have run into situations that can be time found. Toll receipts, prepass, Ipass, qualcomm time tracking, cell phone records, gps device. Phone records even when the phone is not turned on. Computer times of entries or saved times. Fuel records is a dead giveaway. The big ticket has no times, but the comdata or whatever reflects the actual time.
There are many things, is it worth it? It is your decision. Not everyone makes the same one. I make a decent living, you will not get rich.
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We matched every transaction to our times in the log books.
Please read the rest of my previous post.
No company can get my cell records they do not pay my bill so they have no reason to have it.
If they get it the cell company can and will be sued my info is confidential the only way they can get it is with a court order.
Yes it is worth it. My adverage check was aprox 1,000.00 depened on if I got my trips scaned in time or if I wanted to get more miles in.
I only scanned my docs if at the yard or at night if I had enough energy to walk inside to do it.
Alot of times I would go inside and be tired so I forgot the stuff and was not about to make another trip just take a leak inside and back to the truck. -
I did. I just elaborated. Do you have qualcomm? That is the way most are caught. -
Sure did they did not look too much at that info.
Even that can be disabled in a truck if you know what you are doing.
And no you do not have to un hook it.
The records that they would match up is the receipts. -
All I was addressing is the averaging of the speed. You can run your truck anyway you want. I will do the same. -
the adverage speed that is easy the q comm was set up to only notify the company if you went over 72 mph.
Even then they can ping the truck like they did with one of the trucks my trainer had they noticed it was getting to and from a place too fast. they pinnged it and said slow down we got to the yard they hooked up the computer and thought they had reprogramed it wrong it still went 85 just the q comm said we were doing 65 the hole time -
I was talking about the practice of filling a log out by average speed versus the way of doing by actual driving.
The company I drove for used the qualcomm for tracking where and when you were to the log book and the stops etc. Evidently yours is not.
That is all I was referring to to. It makes no difference to me how you log and what your company may do. I just prefer to be legal. -
Just don't assume all drivers are going to do it the way you do.
I'll only assume most drivers eventually will learn to manage their time and income on the road unless they like being on your average OTR company's B team. I probably ran more legal then most, but I did not log work I was not being payed for.
Many of them out here strive to be legal at all times.
What do you mean strive to be legal? Either your legal or you are not legal. Heck I strived to run legal during my time driving OTR but getting paid by the mile and the reality's of the industry aren't very conducive to that endeavor.
There are many things in your truck that can trace where and when you were somewhere.
So what, I had prepass a qualcomm and a sat dish hooked up to a engine monitor. like I said, no one cares what you are doing when you pu and deliver on time, don't ##### about load assignments and are passing DOT inspections with flying colors.
My last OTR company (May Trucking) did weekly reviews on logs and the safety guy said don't log over 53mph in a 55mph and how strict they were on logs in Orientation. I logged the speed limit from day one and never heard a peep from them except when I forgot to put my number of days off in the box in the 6mos plus that I worked there. Heck they even offered me a dedicated tour when I quit to drive local and told me how they hated to lose such a great driver yada,. yada.
Every company I have worked for( KLLM,USX,IDC,MTC) said how safety conscious they are and how compliant we would need to be etc,,, and I never turned in one log book except for maybe a couple that was logged as I did everything. Neat strait lines and no mistakes that would kick it out of the machine where more important then how you got the job done.
The only people who seem to think companies want you to do everything by the book is the safety guy or ex/safety guy.
Theres a company in Vancouver Wa who hires nothing but guys from eastern Europe who run from Portland to New York and back in 5 days solo and pays them .26 a mile. A guy who logs the speed limit and has a good DMV record is just not a issue with most carriers or the DOT.
A lot of these guys that complain about not getting any miles are not getting miles because they can't be counted on by dispatch to do what it takes to service the customers.
I didn't make the system I just maximized my income within it and thats the reality of trucking. If you can't or won't "get er done" then they will find someone else who will and they will get the awards and write ups in the company rag. -
Just for the record. In my past, I ran as far as the book would stretch. I just prefer not to do it anymore.
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Just for the record. In my past, I ran as far as the book would stretch. I just prefer not to do it anymore
I stretched my hours because I was paid only for driving. Now if a company wants to prove to me that they care about safety over profits and want me to drive 100% legal, all they would have to do is pay me the difference between logging the speed limit and for the miles they pay. And the actual time it takes and the miles I drive and pay me a hourly rate for all time performing company business The same tools they use to track what I do could be used to accurately pay the driver for his actual workday, not just some number in a map book
If every driver on the road started logging everything as they did it tomorrow. Cybergirl would be posting trucking company failures on a daily basis.
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