me versus CHR - and the winner is........ (me!)

True and that is just no way to operate. Is it any wonder the single largest complaint is rates in the toilet? Drivers with this mindset don't even understand they do it to themselves.

I only need a load like that a month. If i get a couple like it then that is just great because I can coast thru the month getting decent rates and build a nice low miles gross revenue. You can do a load like that and coast thru the week or you can hammer like that thru a week it opens up options. In my model I look for $12,000 gross revenue average to the truck as a minimum, obviously in as few miles as possible. 10 or a dozen loads like this a year is all a driver needs to build on.

Guys who don't have the patience to score big loads like that here and there, then build around it..v they are missing the boat but you will have owners tell you even in this forum "I need to be moving and you can't make money on a load like that here and there" .... ok then bring your Vaseline and stop complaining about rates you do that to yourself.

Spot market is no place for the impatient it preys on the impatient. I keep saying, and glad to see it opens up some eyes, the "run your direct and use loadboards to get back" is old school thinking. It's ok to do that, we all do to some extent, but it could/should be more effectively exploited than that.

 

Wish they were all like that but then what would be the fun in that and of course there'd be no doubting Thomas's to disprove.

 

I'd say Mike is better than me with the patience game once we get out there. He hit it out of the park in '13 as well probably15-20 cpm higher than me and 10-15k more miles. I compromised many times this year where I didn't in '12. Accepted loads that in '12 I would have passed on. They were good loads though and my rates overall are up not complaining at all. In fact I learned something this year about picking when and where to compromise and get a little more volume.

 

Good analogy lol. And no doubt in my mind whenever I'm indifferent is when they seem to want to pay anything at times (not always of course but you're right it is funny). A load I did about 7 months ago comes to mind when you mention that... I'm like you, if I'm only 300-400 miles from home and not feeling like trifling I will go home and not shy telling anyone calling on my posted truck, "man I'm about ready to call it a day or a week" I'll do that on a Monday too lol.

The particular load from 7 months ago was just that situation. Freight was hot in the market I was in but no-one really wanted to pay my rate. Offered rates were ok just not where I wanted them. The phone was busy and I was busy letting them know why I wasn't interested in their load (fishing for big bucks) and about to head home for supper. One guy with a load of paper roll stock for crying out loud lol. Well he called a few times begging and he agreed to my non-negotiable rate which was shocking and a little disappointing, I mean I priced it like that cause I didn't want his heavy load of rolls.

This from southern AL up to Detroit area over 900 miles at $3.60 gross per mile. I need to find that confirm and post it. Maybe black out phone numbers. It is out of my lanes so I could really care less. Don't work with the brokerage much either. I think it would be kind of funny for them to get slammed with inquiries about this load for $3.60 a mile too lol. The agent even asked if I'd be interested in a dedicated from that shipper back and forth to Dallas when I finished in Detroit area. Of course I would for $3 a mile, uh well I didn't think so, no thanks Mr I don't work at rates like that.

That is what indifference can get you, victory.... A year ago if someone had told me you could haul paper rolls for $3+ off loadboards from a broker I'd have said that's lunacy. In the right place at the right time anything can pay well but you can never appear to be hungry or they will give you crumbs.