Meng Wanzhou, Chinese telecom exec facing possible extradition to US

Discussion in 'Other News' started by Chinatown, Dec 11, 2018.

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  2. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

    Aug 28, 2011
    Henderson, NV & Orient
    If Trudeau would think this out and act in the best interests of Canadians, he would put her on a plane back to China. He would get some great trade deals with China if he did that.
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  3. SteerTire

    SteerTire Road Train Member

    Nov 5, 2018
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    Did you read what collateral was offered @Chinatown ? Her husband!!! And 4 others. Also a couple of multi-million dollar homes in the Vancouver area.

    What kind of person offers up family as collateral lolol
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  4. dog-c

    dog-c Road Train Member

    May 30, 2011
    New York, NY
    Huawei phones have chips in them that record eVery activity the user does and sends the data back to China!
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  5. Jazz1

    Jazz1 Road Train Member

    May 7, 2012
    Thunder Bay On
    Just like those Elogs you have in your trucks:D
    My shiny nickel says she goes back to China over “health concerns”
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  6. mjd4277

    mjd4277 Road Train Member

    Oct 4, 2015
    A classic case of “tit for tat”. With a couple of people caught in the middle and being used as “bargaining chips”.
  7. Tb0n3

    Tb0n3 Road Train Member

    Oct 5, 2012
    China thinks they can just threaten other countries and make them subvert their due process like China does every day. This woman was instrumental in undermining US sanctions on Iran by lying and selling US tech to them. She deserves what she gets here. @Chinatown you might want to start going with independent sources for your China news so you're not lied to by the CCP.
  8. uncleal13

    uncleal13 Road Train Member

    Apr 9, 2009
    Humboldt, Sk
    US sanctions and law do not apply to Citizens of other countries trading with citizens of another country that have no business in the USA. All through recent history the US government is only concerned in world affairs if there is a profit to be made.
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  9. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

    May 16, 2012
    I both agree and disagree.

    I haven't really kept up on this, but apparently there is considerable evidence of Huawei violating the sanctions against Iran. Sanctions that are imposed by the US, but also by Canada and others. This last point is important because under Canadian law, the extradition is only possible if there is some parallel crime here. Despite the appearance in this case, Canada did not, and does not typically, arrest individuals because they make the US unhappy; exceptions noted. Not our problem.

    Historically, Canada does very little of this type of prosecution though, and the US does prosecute extra-jurisdictionally with great vigour. They do push their weight around and cow businesses and countries to bend to their will. Even when it is questionable to do so. And although I loath that behaviour, it does not seem to be the case here.

    The sanctions do apply to Huawei because they conduct business in the countries that imposed them.

    Additionally, the various alphabet-soup agencies--not only in the US and Canada, but also Australia, New Zealand, the UK, etc.--have been warning of Huawei's participation and deep integration in communications and research in various countries. There are significant and legitimate concerns on how they conduct business and on behalf of whom.

    While this whole event certainly had political undertones, it was not overtly political in nature until the bozo in the Oval Office stepped in and made it so. By flapping his gums he not only made it exceedingly political, he also undermined the US DOJ and Canada... and numerous American allies. Although that list should be getting shorter.

    The hand-wringing by some is evidence of the weak, milk-toast relationship Canada, and this government in particular, has with China.

    Lastly, it doesn't matter what Trudeau would want to do, there is nothing that he can do. Both the police and the courts are agencies at arm's-length from the government. While they get their funding, mandate and overall policy direction from the government, their discretion in carrying out those orders are not at the government's behest. No political leader in any country should have influence over such agencies, but I realize not all countries are created equal.

    A good read: Glavin: Squeezed by China and Trump, Canada must rewrite foreign policy – fast
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