MicroBlue Treated 13 Speed Transmission

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by Dice1, Dec 25, 2011.

  1. 98989

    98989 Road Train Member

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    if i am on your place i would go on driver training can save lot of money and can use this knowledge on other trucks

    micro blue coating maybe will not last forever ....
     
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  3. texan007

    texan007 Medium Load Member

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    I have researched that stuff looks like your one up one many guys. I can't wait until I can consider such things.
     
  4. CLC379

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  5. Dice1

    Dice1 Road Train Member

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    Yes they have and even before MicroBlue came on the scene.

    I never did that, but there is a poster named JW on Rutherford's site that did it before he actually had parts MicroBlued. According to him the Tungsten Disulfide powder they used was in the bottom of the rear ends and not on the parts, but come over and ask him directly on this.

    There is another named "Jimmy the Junkman" that has also done the powder before he actually had parts MicroBlued too.

    I can only tell you mine parts were Tungsten Disulfide coated by the MicroBlue process that it dries on contact and would take a lathe cutting tool to remove from metal. I seen this with my own eyes and anybody can visit the MicroBlue shop to see it too.

    MicroBlue will be at MATS with a full display to answer all questions along with a Microscope for you to see exactly what the entire process does to parts to stop friction.

    Note: JW has gone one step further than me by doing an entire inframe kit for his Detroit that he just got back on the road this week and is excited about the results so far. He should have MPG numbers soon also.
     
  6. ROBSREDFORD

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    any updates on 13 speed
     
  7. Dice1

    Dice1 Road Train Member

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    January 2012 is in the books and according to mygauges.com under "Dice.sTruck2012" my monthly average was 9.20 mpg in a month that is known as one of the worse for fuel mileage. My average for January 2011 was 6.33 mpg according to mygauges.com that is almost 3 full mpg with all the improvements I made to my truck that I even feel the fuel quality is worse now with all the crappy bio blended in less than 5% amounts than a year ago.


    My December mileage before the tranny was installed was 8.74 mpg according to mygauges.com that makes it a gain of around 1/2 mpg when fuel economy should be getting worse.


    Can't wait to see what the summer time numbers will be.
     
  8. GRAYMATTERS

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    Dice1......

    A little background info about myself...... I've been involved in the precision metal working industry for decades, and I've seen more surface treatments and coatings than you could shake a stick at.

    Some treatments add HARDNESS to a surface for greater wear resistance, some add greater LUBRICITY to reduce friction and heat, and some do "BOTH".

    You say it would take a lathe cutting tool to remove the coating....... well, I'm sorry to say, "that doesn't impress me much". If you would have said it would take a DIAMOND or CBN grinding wheel to remove the coating, "I would be impressed".

    If I were you, I'd be very concerned about the longevity of the coating..... and I'd want to know how it wears..... in other words, does it slowly wear off?..... does it begin to chip or flake off after a certain amount of wear?.... is it brittle? (handling of the parts during processing and assembly would be a major concern if the coating is brittle)..... Just to raise a few questions.

    Your fuel consumption numbers would suggest that the coating is adding lubricity to your parts, which in turn reduces heat, which in turn reduces wear..... WHICH IN TURN should lengthen the life of the component. You'd have to run the numbers to see where your savings in fuel would pay for the treatment (in other words, your break even point). If the coating doesn't hold up long enough to recoup your investment, well, then what's the point. I, myself, would be disappointed if the coating did not increase the life of component SUBSTANTIALLY.

    None of this is meant to be a criticism of what you are doing...... I'm glad you have decided to take the risk to find out it's validity. I'm also thankful that you are sharing your findings with us (very much appreciated).
     
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  9. Dice1

    Dice1 Road Train Member

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    Sorry I can't answer your question about longevity or any kind of expert post on metalurgy and MicroBlue's Tungsten Disulfide coating. I can only refer you to call Craig at MicroBlue who is a metalurgist and can answer those kind of questions. MicroBlue's number is 704-489-2216.

    I can only offer you my experience as a truck driver after I installed these Microblued Parts with the current mileage on each part changed:
    The wheel bearngs June 29th, 2011 (80,225 miles)
    The rear ends on July 30th, 2011 (*19,380 miles)
    Swapped rear ends for inspection on September 20th, 2011 (47,494 miles)
    Replaced rod and main bearings on December 7th, 2011 (22,416 miles)
    And replaced the Transmission on December 28th (13,351 miles)

    My Fuel Mileage Average according to mygauges.com for the month of June was 8.15 mpg before I installed any MicroBlue Products and my current average for February is 9.23 mpg that is in the middle of winter blend fuel and winter weather when fuel mileage should be off by as much as 1 full mpg or more compared to summer time.

    Note: My fuel mileage for January 2011 was 6.33 mpg.

    Now you decide if the coatings are wearing off with that kind of fuel mileage in the middle of winter and let me clear up the rear end swap was paid for by MicroBlue to inspect my rear ends for any wear since I went with brand new gears.

    Here is a picture of one of the rear ends we swapped on September 20th, 2011 with 19,380 miles on it that looks the same as it did when it was installed with the coating still in place and no signs of wear.

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    If you talk to Craig at MicroBlue, please post what you found out here to maybe help others out.
     
  10. Dice1

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    Couldn`t be better on the fuel mileage numbers and the tranny still never gets over 200 degrees.

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