mileage discrepancy issues

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by anthonyct, Jun 21, 2010.

  1. anthonyct

    anthonyct Bobtail Member

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    Thanks for the advice. Looks like my 2nd thread was merged with this one? Didn't think it made sense since it's two completely different topics (mileage problem with courier service vs. car maintenance)?

    Sorry if it causes any confusion
     
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  3. rich_t

    rich_t Road Train Member

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    anthony,

    one other thing that might be worth you checking into is tax deductions for your out of pocket expenses related to the job. Do you use this car soley for the work or do you use it for personal conveyance as well?

    IIRC you stated you are doing this as a contractor right? If so, that means you will get a 1099 instead of a W2. If you are a 1099 contractor, make sure you are getting your taxes paid accordingly. Otherwise you might be in for a world of hurt at the end of the year.

    You might also want to register as an LLC or sole proprietor business owner to protect your other assets if you get into an accident that you are found to be at fault. (People are sue happy in this country these days).
     
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  4. anthonyct

    anthonyct Bobtail Member

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    Yes, I'm keeping an excel spreadsheet of all my runs including my start location, pickup location, drop-off location and return trip (including mileage for each) as well as the waybill #

    Pretty much with the $0.50/mile standard IRS deduction that will wipe out my income as far as taxes are concerned, except for SS and Medicare I think.
     
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    anthonyct Bobtail Member

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    I have a coupon for Midas and their "Oil Change Plus" for $26.99 which includes tire rotation.

    It mentions high mileage, synthetic and syntehtic blend are extra. I called to make an appointment and was told "high mileage" is $59.99 and "full synthetic" is $89.99

    Not sure what the difference is, but assuming I should get the full synthetic every 3 months where I'm putting 4-6K miles on each month?

    EDIT: I'm driving a 2001 Buick Century with around 68K miles on it atm. Always used conventional oil, just in case any of this has an impact on what path I should take.
     
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  6. rich_t

    rich_t Road Train Member

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    I use a full synthetic and change it about every 15k miles. It comes out looking pretty clean, so I could probably stretch it a bit if I wanted to.

    Just keep an eye on the color when you check your oil levels, when it starts to get dark, I'd change it.
     
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  7. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    Just thought I would let you know about the mileage rules.

    http://www.irs.gov/publications/p463/ch04.html#en_US_publink100033935

    This just does not mean taxi's



    Standard mileage rate not allowed. You cannot use the standard mileage rate if you:
    • Use the car for hire (such as a taxi)
    I assume as a courier you are tranporting property for hire. Then the definition of car is defined as follows:


    Car defined. For depreciation purposes, a car is any four-wheeled vehicle (including a truck or van) that is made primarily for use on public streets, roads, and highways. Its unloaded gross vehicle weight must not be more than 6,000 pounds. A car includes any part, component, or other item that is physically attached to it or is usually included in the purchase price.



    A car does not include:
    • An ambulance, hearse, or combination ambulance-hearse used directly in a business,
    • A vehicle used directly in the business of transporting persons or property for pay or hire, or
    • A truck or van that is a qualified nonpersonal use vehicle.
     
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  8. Paddington

    Paddington Medium Load Member

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    The company is probably surprised as all hell that anyone said something about getting ripped off on mileage.
    Most drivers justify the poor pay/treatment/freebies in this industry by saying:

    "That's trucking"
    "It's what you make of it"
    "Part of the job"
    "Freedom of the road"
    "Sunsets and rainbows"

    Independent contractor = you trash your own vehicle and pay for your own health insurance, retirement, taxes, etc.
    While the company laughs all the way to the bank.
    This is why Landstar, FedEx Ground, Prime, etc are some of the most profitable trucking companies around.
    They just shift all those expenses on the contractors, who are more than happy to get screwed.
    Unless you own at least 5+ routes/rigs, most O/O in this biz don't make much more than company drivers.

    My advice: screw the oil changes, go get a real job.
     
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  9. anthonyct

    anthonyct Bobtail Member

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    I edited the quote to pick out the parts that seem to conflict. I'm brand new to this, and thought that I could take the standard mileage.

    But above it mentions you can't if your car is "for hire" which I assume I am because the courier service contacts me with a job and I have the option of turning it down if I wish?

    But then further down it "defines" what a "car" is, and it states that a car is not "in the business of transpoting persons or propery for pay or hire" which then leads me to believe that my car does not qualify as a "car" according to their description because of the nature of its use.

    That's what I've always "loved"** about our legal system. They can take the common meaning of words and twist the hell out of them. They could write a law that says "anyone wearing a green shirt will go to jail" and then 1,000 pages down in the code toss in "for the purpose of this law, green means pink and pants means hat" and they can get away with it.

    So..........do you feel I cannot take the standard deduction? Because if that's the case, then this job just become hugely unprofitable for me to do. At least with the standard mileage wiping out my income it made sense.:biggrin_25521:



    **for the purpose of this post, loved means hated
     
  10. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    Simply put.

    Since you use the vehicle for tranporting property for hire, then you cannot take the standard mileage.


    You can take the actual expenses of the vehicle including depreciation, fuel, insurance, license and etc.
     
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    anthonyct Bobtail Member

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    Curses, foiled again! :biggrin_25510:
     
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