Mixed Stroke Length Brake Chambers on Same Axle

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  1. JeremyTourville

    JeremyTourville Bobtail Member

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    I have read that you shouldn't do it. During the process of troubleshooting some other things I noticed that my rear axle on the truck has two different 3030 chambers. I can clearly see the markings on them. One is a 3 in long stroke with the square boss inlets The other is a 2.5 stroke and has round boss inlets for the brake hose fittings.

    I am thinking with two different sizes the slack adjusters were used to compensate for the difference. Maybe they are close enough to work but not technically correct? Any thoughts?

    I know the MFG specifies a 3in long stroke. I was thinking of changing out the 2.5 with a 3 and readjust the slack adjusters. Do you think that is unnecessary? Thanks for your input and advice.
     
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  3. Big Road Skateboard

    Big Road Skateboard Road Train Member

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    Pretty sure DOT requirements are both chambers on an axle have to be same stroke.

    I would replace the standard stroke with a long stroke
     
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  4. JeremyTourville

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    That's a good point I forgot about. Shame on the last mechanic. Shoddy work.

    I'll change it out and readjust the slack adjusters. Thanks!
     
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  5. Joyce's Volvo

    Joyce's Volvo Light Load Member

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    Most everything per axle is to match.
     
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  6. JeremyTourville

    JeremyTourville Bobtail Member

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    I found the regulation that covers this. (In case anyone else wants to know)

    49 CFR Part 393 Subpart C


    "Brake chambers. The service brake chambers and spring brake chambers on each end of an axle must be the same size."

    One could make an argument that as long as they are both 3030 what is the difference, but who ever won an argument with the DOT? It's just easier to replace and move on with life. There's enough other DOT regs to put up with.
     
    Last edited: Jun 11, 2025
    Reason for edit: DOT Citation
  7. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    Gotta keep it all balanced.
     
  8. Iamoverit

    Iamoverit Road Train Member

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    They have to match. Stroke length is assumed per can size. A long stroke 30/30 isn't the same size as a short stroke 30/30.

    It's an OOS violation and a road service call will cost you and arm and a leg for a simple cheap job you can do yourself.

    You're right, it's not a good argument to make and it makes you look like an irresponsible carrier that's too broke to properly fix his equipment.
     
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  9. Joyce's Volvo

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    The only real difference is that the long stroke will allow your cam adjustment to be 1/8” longer before you get wrote up. But , 30-30 st has the same square area as 30-30 ls - so the force of push is equal to the psi applied. The ls has more travel or longer stroke than standard stroke. , it’s not a safety issue but, try to explain it to the inspector.
     
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