More than one chain on a D-ring?

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  1. Bdog

    Bdog Road Train Member

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    Assuming you are not exceeding the capacity of the d-ring (1” ring) if you were securing something light with say 5/16” chains is it legal to have two chains going through one ring with say one pulling backwards and one forward?
     
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  3. Zeviander

    Zeviander Road Train Member

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    In terms of DOT math, it would likely only be counted as a single point of securement, but it's perfectly fine to do. An anchor point is an anchor point.
     
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  4. PoleCrusher

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    Seems to me it would come down to the WLL of the D ring.
     
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  5. starmac

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    I hope so, cuz I have done it numerous times. lol
     
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  6. Bdog

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    That is what I would think and logically it makes sense but sometimes DOT laws don’t make sense so I was checking. On my trailer I don’t have a rub rail / stake pockets / spools just d rings and they are spaced far enough apart that sometimes you want to use the same ring for a couple chains on different items.
     
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    Cop can write anything he wants on a ticket and youll either plead guilty or waste a day fighting it. weld s'more on and never worry about it again.
     
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  8. RollinThunderVet

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    I have a set of shackles on order that have a 17k wll. Far exceeding the 6k of 2 chains, so I hope so
     
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    Securement points aren’t required to be rated so you can tell them it’s rated at anything you want it’s still probably going to be considered a single point because if the ring fails so do two of your tiedowns.
     
  10. Bdog

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    I could see them counting it as a single tie down if you had two chains on the same piece of equipment going to one d-ring but what I am specifically wondering is if the chains are going to different things like two small skid steers. They are under 10k but we put 4 chains on each anyway however where the two skid steers meed we use the same d-ring for the rear chains on one skid steer and the front chains on the other. How would they count it as one in that scenario?
     
  11. johndeere4020

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    If the D ring failed and both come loose you’d still have an “insecure load” doesn’t matter if it was an “extra” chain or not. I’m honestly just playing devils advocate, I’ve done it myself. In my business I find myself doing it a lot when I’m hauling something extra, I’ll load trench boxes, steel plates or something similar then throw something light on top like a piece of plastic pipe or something similar. I’ll chain the plates or boxes then I’ll strap the extra stuff down and the only place to hook a strap is where the chain is already hooked so I hook the strap there to. Is it legal? I don’t know but it’s secure. I’ve also secured extra stuff directly to what I’m hauling then secure that, not sure if that’s legal either.
     
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