Motivator from Phoenix, any advice

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  1. Rock53

    Rock53 Bobtail Member

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    Hey all, new guy from Phoenix! found this great forum week ago and finally signed up. Thanks for everything! So why the title of post?

    I’m a firefighter with a good schedule where I work 1 day (24hrs) and have 2 days off straight (48 hours), continuously. I wanna earn more money so I looked into CDL as side job. I earned my class a cdl permit and am studying for the next endorsements. I served over 8 years active USMC honorably, still motivated, still mentally and physically fit, still organized. I say this not to boast by any means but because my goal is to go flat bed/heavy haul/or tanker, and A lot of what I googled says for those areas you need that mindset (squared away, organized, etc.) I’m motivated and ready to learn a new skill, learning is something I love doing.

    Best option I found for acquiring my cdl is cdl trucking school Phoenix , where it’s $1600 for 7 days 2 hours a day. You go there with cdl permit in hand and they train and test you for your cdl.

    my question for everyone is will there be any jobs that would take me with my schedule situation? Would there be a company that would hire me and train me to cdl? Is there better options for acquiring my cdl than paying the $1600 course ?

    I have a weird Situation that I couldn’t find answers to on a google search so who better to ask than the truckers report

    Thanks guys and gals.
     
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  3. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    There's a few problems with running a CDL as a side job. The main one being Hours of Service. After that 24-hour stint, you need a minimum of 10 hours off. Depending on your 70-hour clock you may even need 34 hours off before you can start driving.

    Truck driving simply is not a profession that lends itself as a side job because of all the regulations involved.
     
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    JDHIGGINS44 Light Load Member

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    While I agree with ZVar as to the fact that truck driving doesn't lend its hand to part time work very well, I disagree with his thought that you need to log your hours at the fire department. I personally do not believe these need to be inner twined at all. The minute you're off the clock at the fire department you could go to work driving.
     
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  5. Rock53

    Rock53 Bobtail Member

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    thank you. There are times where I get 4 days (96 hours) off, whatever that may mean.
     
  6. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Except the law disagrees with you. I'm not saying what is right or wrong, just what is legal.
    The specific wording is....
    (9) Performing any compensated work for a person who is not a motor carrier.
     
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    mud23609 Medium Load Member

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    Why not look into learning web development. You can learn it in your spare time for free and pick up contract work and/or freelance work on your days off.

    The future is much brighter and the money is much better in this field than in trucking.

    Try www.freecodecamp.org out to see if it might be for you.
     
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    ShortBusKid Heavy Load Member

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    There are casual jobs in Phoenix. I’ve worked them there and elsewhere. The problem you will have is lack of experience. Generally a new CDL holder would need to go with a trainer for a few weeks. One off the top of my head is Knight/Swift. You may not get to do flatbed right away but you need to get some road time in. Although they aren’t the best company long term they are far from the worst. Contact them and maybe they can work something out for you.
     
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  9. Rock53

    Rock53 Bobtail Member

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    I was wrong about the HOS reference, see post below.
     
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    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    Work for a temp service that hires cdl drivers. This way, you can work when you want to.
    Here's one several drivers on this forum work for.
    Hire cdl and non-cdl drivers.
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    Rock53 Bobtail Member

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    Just wanted to clarify this for others that might need this information!!!

    This excerpt is from wikipedia
    Hours of service - Wikipedia
    • Performing any compensated work for a person who is not a motor carrier. (This rule does not explicitly forbid a driver from obtaining a second or part-time job. It simply prevents a driver switching from a non-driving job to a driving job without the required 10 hours of rest.)

    I could not find this in the FMCSA regulation 395.2

    What I DID find in FMCSA 395.2
    Regulations Section
    was this:

    Question 29: Although firefighters, emergency medical technicians, paramedics and other public safety professionals are often exempt from the hours-of-service (HOS) regulations under the governmental exception [49 CFR 390.3(f)(2)], they sometimes have second jobs with interstate motor carriers for which they are required to comply with the HOS rules. When one of these individuals has a second job with an interstate motor carrier and works a 24-hour shift for the fire/rescue/emergency services department, is all of the time spent during the shift considered on-duty time?


    Guidance: No. Fire fighters and other public safety professionals working 24-hour shifts may record time during which they are required or permitted to rest as off-duty time. However, all time that the public safety specialist is required to perform work (e.g., administrative work, cleaning/repairing equipment, operating equipment, etc.) would be considered on-duty time.

    Hope this helps someone!
     
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