Motive Driver e-logs. The new wild west?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Ducktart, Jun 21, 2022.

  1. Ducktart

    Ducktart Light Load Member

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    Is anyone else's company using this app for their logs? Apparently millions are using it and it is DOT compliant. But you can edit whatever you want to. You can edit out any violations or just completely make your hours up. It's even easier to hide and edit out violations than paper logs were.

    Generally I'm not an advocate for big government breathing down your neck all day, but I do see the necessity for HOS being regulated. However with an app like this you can just make up whatever. I'm surprised this is allowed.

    Thoughts?
     
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  3. Siinman

    Siinman Road Train Member

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    Try driving and then edit the logs. That is the only thing that really matters. You cannot edit that drive time.
     
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  4. God prefers Diesels

    God prefers Diesels Road Train Member

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    I have Motive (KeepTruckin')

    Great log system. As stated above, try editing drive time, or PC. You can change on duty to off duty and vice versa, but that's it. And FYI, when you send in the logs to a cop, they can see the edits.

    If I accidentally drive on PC, I can have my wife switch it to regular drive time on the computer, but I can't do it on my phone. And neither of us, or KeepTruckin' staff can edit drive time at all.
     
  5. Ducktart

    Ducktart Light Load Member

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    I can edit drive time on mine. Every duty status can be changed and edited on mine.
     
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    God prefers Diesels Road Train Member

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    Do you have a module on your dash that connects to the truck (with a cable to the 9/6 pin), and your phone connects to the module via Bluetooth?

    Or is it just an app on your phone?
     
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  7. Siinman

    Siinman Road Train Member

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    You must be the only one that can do so. I can hit edit on drive line and change words but not drive time. You sure?
     
  8. Ducktart

    Ducktart Light Load Member

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    Just the app. It's not connected to the truck.
     
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  9. Siinman

    Siinman Road Train Member

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    Ha Ha I did not even think about that. That is funny!!!
     
  10. Siinman

    Siinman Road Train Member

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    So you are not using an ELD than just the app. Good luck with that when the DOT ask to see your logs.
     
  11. God prefers Diesels

    God prefers Diesels Road Train Member

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    That's the problem. We did the same thing in the oilfield to "pretend" we were compliant.

    If your logs aren't connected to the truck and actively getting information from the ECM, I don't think they're legal. 99.99% sure that's the case.

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