Moving shipping containers and a extra trailer??

Discussion in 'Questions To Truckers From The General Public' started by Shaunarbrand, Mar 17, 2010.

  1. Shaunarbrand

    Shaunarbrand Bobtail Member

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    So this is my challenge...
    I am in central Alberta, and am moving to interior BC 8 hours away.
    We own and have filled a shipping container with 6 tons of materials.

    I want to have it shipped to my new land, but I also want to ship the contents of my home there too, and I don;t really want to have two trucks going out.

    I am hoping someone can help me, define the most cost efficive way to ship my life, and let me know what I am looking for by way of a truck / equipment that I should be seeking out.

    * the bin is on the ground so we need a landall or picker i know this much, but is it likely a flat bed has a the ability to tilt and drag a 10 ton bin into place?

    ** also considering buying a second bin to load our house into so that both bins ship together, then selling he second, is this way easier than having a dry trailer loaded and pulling a flat deck trailer with the bin on it?

    *** I also realize that we may need to employ a picker on the other end too to lift the bin.

    Any suggestions on making this move economical would be great, Once I know what I am looking for I was considering posting some ads online and in the local truck stops.. is this a good idea?

    THANKS IN ADVANCE!:biggrin_2552:

    Thanks
     
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  3. Kittyfoot

    Kittyfoot Crusty Ancient

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    Let me see if I have this right...... you have a steel shipping container (possibly 2) that you want shipped 800 miles for cheap. I'm assuming here that these are 20 ft containers.

    1. You state that you own the first. That leads me to think you've had it awhile. So, where has it been sitting..... on dirt, on pavement, on blocks?? Where is it now..... open field, behind a building/shop, beside the driveway? The trucker needs to know beforehand what he's gonna have to do to access it.

    2. You state that the first container has 6 tons of material. Is that Tons (2000 lb) or Tonnes (2200 lb)? How do you know that weight... are you guesstimating? What do you mean by "material"? Do you have those contents manifested? Any cases of oil/solvents in there which will fall under Hazardous Material? How about things like Acetylene cutting torches with acetylene and oxygen bottles? Gasoline tanks? Is everything secured in there or just piled in? Do you have the "materials" insured for damage or are you expecting the trucker to pay whatever claims you might make down the road?

    3. What are you thinking of when you say "picker"? No, your average flatbed does not have a winch/ hydraulic tilt and is not gonna be cool with dragging a container over the back of his trailer. You're gonna need a "drop deck" trailer at minimum. But what you're describing is a Landall type hydraulic equipment trailer or an oilfield type trailer. Neither of these come "cheap".

    Now all you want can be done BUT it's gonna be labor and time intensive both loading and unloading. Time costs money so you will definitely have to adjust your definition of "economical".

    My advice to you is to contact a local flatbed outfit, have them come out and look the job over and give you a quote. Then you'll know what you're working with. I'm sorry, but it sounds like you really don't understand what's involved here. No insult, most people don't. Mickey Mousing around with this stuff can easily get people hurt or killed.

    Your most economical answer may be to sell the stuff and buy new at your other location.
     
  4. striker

    striker Road Train Member

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    some container companies and HD wrecker companies have landall's that can drag a loaded container on to the trailer, but they will restrict you on the weight. Some container companies also have sidelift chassis where they can pull up alongside the container and lift it onto the chassis. Again, you will be limited on the amount of weight. I will guarentee you it will cost more than $800 either way.
     
  5. Shaunarbrand

    Shaunarbrand Bobtail Member

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    OK...

    some clarification:

    Clearly yes I have no experience in this world of trucking, except having purchased this bin, and had it shipped already once about 1 hour out of town.

    So you are correct we own 1 bin, but we bought in only 6 months a go in very good shape, to store building materials (which we can't liquidate, they are for building out future home on the BC site) The bin has a total weight on 10000 lbs ( i have just had confirmed), This is what the last truck told us it weighed so I am imagining he weighted in at the scale which is on route between out load point and it's current resting place. The bin is sitting on level ground on a farm driveway (so it'd not paved, but firm packed gravel and dirt)

    The truck that picked it up fully loaded at this weight, had a tilt deck (not sure if this is the correct term) and a hoist to drag it on to his deck, and he unloaded similarly.

    My hope is at this point (after just spending a few days on our new site) to have a similar truck pick it up again and drive it to the new site and pay the truck for the total travel time. I have inquired about landall service and longlining the can to the nearest landall yard, bit the loading and unloading at both ends is likely $600 + the transport it self...

    I paid $80 / hour for the last run, so I am wondering if I can do this for less than $1360 ($80X17 hours return travel time)

    What I realize at this point is: Likely, we will have to rent a separate truck to transport our home contents in and do this as two separate deliveries. I just hoped that I might be able to transport everything somehow with one truck.

    I did speak to a driver / operator who had a 5 ton with a covered box and a gooseneck 20 ft trailer, and he could take the whole kit and caboodle but quoted me $5500!

    If I could have the above service at an hourly rate of $100 or so.. that would be perfect! I just don't know how to go about advertising my needs, or where to look for the above.

    I appreciate both of your responses, and further advise (now that I have confirmed and clarified some details) would be most appreciated.

    THANKS :)
     
  6. Shaunarbrand

    Shaunarbrand Bobtail Member

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    ** Also there are no hazardous materials, just windows, and sheet goods, etc...
    all building materials well packed.

    In addition the pick up location in really open and posses no challenges for manoeuvring a truck, as it's on a wide level open area. The drop off location however will be a little more challenging... the drive way is slightly steep and the turn around area will be tight and require some manoeuvring up the drive, by it is doable.

    but a 40ft trailer will no be able to manouver at the drop site!
     
  7. Longhood379

    Longhood379 Medium Load Member

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    If your container is a 20 ft sea can and you want to add another 20 ft sea can they can be hooked together to make on 40 ft sea can . there is a company called container mobility that can pick up the containers and transport them or load them on another trailer, , they charge 150 per hour last I heard , what part of BC are you looking to move them to ???
     
  8. Shaunarbrand

    Shaunarbrand Bobtail Member

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    moving out to Winlaw BC - between Nelson & Castlegar, about 40 from both, fairly remote, but on route to Revelstoke...
     
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