Moving truck in shipper/ consignee lot after 14 hours

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by flatbeddin', Mar 31, 2009.

  1. flatbeddin'

    flatbeddin' Bobtail Member

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    Ok so quick question here but there is a qualcomm attatched to my truck so it's not like I can just work the book. Can u move your truck inside a shipper or receivers lot while loading or unloading after your 14 hours is up as long as I don't travel out onto any roads or streets and take a full ten hour break afterwards? For instance I show up at 2100 and my 14 hours is up at 2145, could I legally load/unload than move my truck into their overnight parking lot, and then take a full ten hour break before leaving in the morn? Thanks in responce for your answers.
     
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  3. rocknroll nik

    rocknroll nik High Risk Load Member

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    I always did. But that doesn't mean it's right. Some companies have the quallcomms set up to blast you after 15 miles or 15 minutes of movement. Some are set up around speed, others like Werner were set up on grid square reference points like a military map. I think that as long as you don't go to far or at too high a speed you should be ok... but I don't work for your company either so I am just guessing
     
  4. psanderson

    psanderson Road Train Member

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    As long as you do not use a public conveyance (road/highway) you can drive as much as you wish. But you cannot legally enter a public conveyance after your 14-hours. You time however must be logged on line 4.

    From a retired federal DOT official
     
  5. flatbeddin'

    flatbeddin' Bobtail Member

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    Thanks so much for your quick responces. I ended up loading last night till 2218 and then moved over in the overnight parking area to tarp and strap in the morning but I wanted to get loaded the night before so I didn't have to waste time behind the line of trucks they said happens every morn. I'm glad I did everything the way I did too and that it was legal as the line was pretty long at 7 am when I woke up. Once again thanks for your help.
     
  6. truckerdad57

    truckerdad57 Light Load Member

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    With a QC equipped truck you will really need to "experiment" a little. QC does not give an EXACT location unless the truck's position is "polled". Polling by QC costs the company extra to do and has to be specifically requested.

    WIth my company I can move 3-4 miles without the QC showing movement.

    FYI - I worked in safety with our company in the office for a while so I got to see both sides... went back and looked at my QC location data on nights I knew I had moved a couple of miles to get dinner or something while on break. Location showed the same... no movement.

    But.. be careful. you move a little to far........
     
  7. JPenn

    JPenn Road Train Member

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    I'm really not sure how the QC is at reporting movement, probably a setting that can be changed by the company.

    I've had a few instances where I stopped an hour or so short of my consignee, took my 10hr break (plus a few), and started rolling again in time to make an early morning delivery, only to be called up angrily by some overcaffienated loon in dispatch asking why I was 80 miles from my stop (as I was pulling in their driveway right on my delivery time). Apparently my QC was still reporting my location from my break, and hadn't shown movement since then despite my traveling 80 miles on the interstate.
     
  8. Owner's Operator

    Owner's Operator Medium Load Member

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    It must be a nightmare working for a company with that "qualcomm" crap looking over your shoulder.
     
  9. Ridgerunner665

    Ridgerunner665 Road Train Member

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    Some are...some ain't so bad.
     
  10. CURTWAYNE

    CURTWAYNE Medium Load Member

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    Probably depends on the company. One company I am aware of, the dispatcher would have you call in on the phone, and beg you to continue to drive even though you were out of hours. They would tell the driver to keep going, but not touch the quallcomm, until after you have recouped some hours after midnight. They would have you call them to let them know you have made it to the destination. Once you had recouped your hours, and allowed for travel time from where you were supposed to be to where you are, then you could make your quallcomm entries.
    They were not afraid of a mileage issue.
     
  11. Powell-Peralta

    Powell-Peralta Road Train Member

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    This exact situation just happened to me on friday.

    i think, as i view the question, is the question for me is:

    Is it legal to move drive the truck on private property after either/or the 10 or 14 hour rule(s) is up?


    1) i would have to respectfully disagree and i feel that ALL driving even on private property, must be logged on line 3, therefore we would be in violation.

    However, if the truck has just been unloaded, then can we use the "personal conveyance" rule? And therefore, not be in violation?
     
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