Multi-stop Pick Turns to Intrastate Delivery? What do you do?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by PE_T, Dec 27, 2019.

  1. bavarian

    bavarian Heavy Load Member

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    Call the cops. They stole part of your load.

    I would confront the broker with that plan. See what he has to say.

    It might be too late now anyways.


    Better luck next year.
     
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  3. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    Just an FYI you guys throw this bol thing around.

    A bill of ladening aka bol is a legal receipt from the carrier to the consignee and/or shipper. It is proof of transfer of goods on board the truck from the shipper to the carrier to be transported.

    You, the driver has to fill it out, and by regulation and state law has to have on it three things, the pickip name and address, the delivery name and address, the description of good on board. Roshea filled in the other fmcsa requirements.

    I have a no haul policy if the shipping papers are not complete to compete a legal bol.
     
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  4. PE_T

    PE_T Road Train Member

    I highly doubt the load was stolen by the 2nd shipper. They were calling it a “transfer.”
     
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  5. PE_T

    PE_T Road Train Member

    I should have been more clear. I am both the dispatcher and driver of my trucking company. The rate confirmation does have the full address and customer name for the destination.
     
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  6. 86scotty

    86scotty Road Train Member

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    I agree with Magoo. They're playing games. I would feel out the broker carefully and talk to them a lot, see if you can catch them in a lie or whether they really didn't know either. Then I would bill them. Get a rate con before you move, but by now you probably already have.

    Also, call them out here, shipper and broker. We oughta know who is playing these games.
     
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  7. Brandt

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    Sounds like a automotive load. They do that all the time. First pickup will load trailer. Second pick up will unload car parts. Because they use them to make something. Then they reload the finished product back onto truck. We deliver that to the car factory. I did a load like that and it had 5 pickups. Some stops would unload parts and reload the finished product. Some pickups just load the trailer. Basically they are all working together to get what parts they need made for production. They pay extra money to have one truck drive around to all the pickups.
     
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  8. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    The rate con having the address won't mean squat to a dot that is looking at the bol. That address needs to be on the bol.
     
  9. texasmorrell

    texasmorrell Medium Load Member

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    That’s exactly what happened. That’s an old con in this industry. The broker was paid for a short haul but found someone gullible enough to be tricked into thinking they were doing a long haul. It happened to me once a long time ago and after that I always make sure that the bill of lading’s and the rate confirmations matched. If they didn’t my truck didn’t move.
     
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  10. texasmorrell

    texasmorrell Medium Load Member

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    That’s exactly right. In fact, a missing address on a BOL is an OOS order. There is a reason DOT always asks to see your BOL when they pull you into the chicken coop. They are trying to see if any I’s were not dotted or T’s were not crossed so they can issue you a citation and make a little money. And they have no problem making you sit there until you can get a properly filled out bill of lading faxed to you before they let you go on your way. I speak from experience.
     
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  11. stayinback

    stayinback Road Train Member

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    Ok, We all got the idea here- PR trans will learn.

    NOW, More importantly, PE Trans Pay attention, How Much are You going to get paid for this?

    What did you EXACTLY end up doing here? Pay Attention in the Future- Question things when they dont Feel or look right.

    Pay Closer attention to BOL"s too- Sometimes they can work out in your Favor and can over-ride a Chitbag Brokjer playing games, By Looking closer at the Articles.

    Is it "Collect" or "Prepaid" ? Too many Drivers think a "prepaid" stamped BOL means transportation has already been paid to Broker or carrier....

    It Does Not- I'll get into that Later in another thread.

    Tell Us more EXACTLY what work you did from start to Finish,Where you went,What this broker has agreed upon After the Fact- Etc Etc.

    Im Going to try and help you out here- But you gotta be Honest with me- Private me if you want- But others on here would probably want to see the results.
     
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