Multiple sales guys claiming their 12-14 CARB engines won't need rebuild until >600k

A couple things...

We have four 2013 ISX's, 500 HP. All less than 200k on miles, and only one hasn't been rebuilt under warranty, one of those was an out-of-frame.


And you guys do realize the big Maxxforce engine is a C-15 block with a high-pressure common-rail head on it, don't you?

 

Not true on detroits end. I have replaced GHG14 DD13/DD15 liner seals & head gaskets under warranty just around 350k miles or some times even less. I have replaced over 100 high pressure pump, cam housing, oil module & air compressor seals which usually come in leaking around 300k miles so extended warranty up to 500k is a must..pretty much the entire engine including the flywheel housing. So technically replacing the liner seals calls for new piston rings so i consider it a 90% rebuild minus the bearings.

 

Then by all means have at it. Out of 12 fleet Cascadia's DD13's new trucks (no more than two years old) I would say on average they are in the shop once every 30k for emissions related issues. I've been towed twice (two different trucks) because of emissions issues and yes, the truck was in compliance but the computer sensed otherwise. Both wrecker operators that gave me a tow said business has never been better and it's all due to the EPA's emission's garbage engines. They're not towing 15 year old trucks, they're towing new trucks. Even if covered by warranty who can afford to spend this much time in the shop? "reduced pollution" ? Okay, if you say so. Many of the newer CARB trucks get worse fuel mileage than pre-emissions trucks so how does this reduce pollution? I could go on and on about how the new trucks add pollution not "reduce it" but I've got other things to do today. Just look at the added production that goes into producing one of these. If you go with one of the newer engines I wish you luck. I myself won't roll the dice, too risky.

 

I get what you're saying but do you think it is really a fair comparison - 55 year old patched up motors versus '98-'02 electronic diesels?

 

maxxforce not gonna get to 600k miles. Cummins maybe? Detroit also maybe? No for volvos.

 

I got 850k on my d13 and it does not use a drop oil or have any blow-by I had to fix on plug on a nox sensor and replace one exhaust temp sensor
before I got it it had one turbo done and the wiring harness to the head. so all an all its been a real good truck great ride and good fuel milage (till I
put my new drives on) and the engine brake will stop the truck loaded with out touching the brakes. and th I-shift is the best thing ever