MY 1969 PETE ON YOUR STEPDECK? SHOT IN THE DARK!!

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  1. BIGZILLA

    BIGZILLA Heavy Load Member

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    I believe you. and appreciate him taking time to try to school a newb. Most of what he said went over my head but each time I read his explanation again it gets a little better.
     
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  3. passingthru69

    passingthru69 Road Train Member

    That looks like an early style power divider in front of the lead rear end. Might be a Rockwell setup.
    Hopefully the data plate info can shed more light on your trk. for you. Plus if the person who used to own it had any maintance records or remembers who did most of the work on it. Then try and get in contact with them and see if maybe they can help shed some history on the trk.. Looks like it could be a neat restore. Even though you will never get all your money back on it, but I think it would neat if you could restore it.
    I know not my money. lol
    Any how, good luck with this trk.. Even if you chop it like Oscar keeps wanting you to do.. lol
     
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  4. rank

    rank Road Train Member

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    Did you read the forum rules Bigzilla? I think TTR rules state that turning a 69 Pete into a pick up truck is grounds for banishment.
     
  5. rank

    rank Road Train Member

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    ...get another engine in there and an air ride suspension you might be able to turn a profit. Old trucks are bringing a pretty penny these days.
     
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  6. Oxbow

    Oxbow Road Train Member

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    Maybe this will help Bigzilla;
    Suppose you are on ice and the power divider is not engaged, and you spin the tire(s). Which ever tire, on either drive axle, that has the least traction will spin while the others do not move at all. Now let's say that the tire that is spinning is on the front drive axle, and the truck is not moving at all. In this scenario the drive shaft coming from the transmission to the front axle (through the power divider, or inter-axle lock) will obviously be turning, but the drive shaft between the front and rear drive axles will not be turning at all.

    Now let's say that you have the identical situation (truck not moving, one tire spinning), except the only tire spinning is on the back drive axle. Now the drive shaft between the front and back drive axles will be turning at the same speed as the drive shaft coming from the transmission to the front axle.

    Now let's say that the power divider is locked in, or engaged. In this case both the input from the transmission and the inter-axle drive line must turn the same speed, as they are locked together. In this scenario at least one tire on each axle must spin.

    On dry pavement, they will both be turning the same speed when not locked together (going straight), unless the tires on one or the other drive axles are different sizes, or worn more.

    Hopefully this makes sense, and keep asking questions, as that is how we all learn.

    P.S., I'm doing this on my phone, hopefully I didn't muck up.
     
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  7. soloflyr

    soloflyr Medium Load Member

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    I have to give credit to Bigzilla for asking for advice on things he is not sure of, as well to those who have the knowledge to provide him with a greater understanding of what he has gotten himself into.

    Me personally, I have gained knowledge I didn't previously have by reading through the post concerning this particular truck.

    To all participating in this conversation, I give thanks for your sharing of knowledge, as it makes me a wiser person.

    Hopefully when I find myself in the middle of restoring a '73 narrow-nosed KW, since that is the first truck I ever drove, I will be able to pull from the same knowledge base.

    To all my fellow, old schooled truckers, I give a bow & scrape as a sign of acknowledgement to the way things were & the way they should still be as well as a sign of respect.
     
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  8. Yves kanevil

    Yves kanevil Medium Load Member

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    This truck is in way too good a shape to chop. Restoring this truck to its former glory is the only way I would do it. If you want a pickup go buy a pickup don't demean the old girl by putting a pick up box at the back. I do agree with updating that suspension though. Chiropractors made lots of money when that suspension was common
     
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  9. BIGZILLA

    BIGZILLA Heavy Load Member

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    Definitely a Rockwell. The numbers on the front cover of the power divider is a Rockwell part number. I just haven't identified which one. I've been googling every number I can find. I moved the truck today to place where I can actually walk around it so I should have a clear picture of what I have soon. And I'm expecting a response from my Paccar parts research case at any moment, that with tell me exactly what equipment this truck had when it left the assembly plant.

    As far as cutting this truck up.... I can't do it. I want to bring her back as close as possible to her original glory! And I have decided to let her earn her keep. Sooner or later she is going back to work.

    Now, about this two stick shifting.... When I moved it today, only about 8 miles I only had to pull over once because I got stuck in neutral.:confused: That is improvement!

    Thanks again to all who have contributed in the schoolin' of Zilla
     
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  10. passingthru69

    passingthru69 Road Train Member

    Glad to hear you will restore the trk..
    Welcome to 2 stick trucking..
    Drove a 5 x 4 then a 10 x 4 years ago.
    Like Colorado Green stated it can be trying and both sticks up on the dash so to speak in high gears
    Never locked them up, but did have to stop and restart several times..
     
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  11. BIGZILLA

    BIGZILLA Heavy Load Member

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    I haven't locked them up yet either... emphasis on YET This two stick thing will definitely keep you focused. I'm having much more trouble coming down the gears than up, I hesitate and that gets me in trouble.

    I pulled the hood open today, and with one notable exception, it was pretty much what I expected. Lotsa dust and oil and a few jury rigs from the farm.

    Now the notable exception. Let's see who spots it. What is missing here? IMG_0466.JPG

    And now the expected mess
    View attachment 132674 IMG_0466.JPG IMG_0453.JPG IMG_0461.JPG IMG_0469.JPG
     
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