My experience running 100% legal, if anyone cares.

Truckerdave I think your kidding on not knowing what on-duty not driving is, but for the newbies it means any action thats work releated. That's fueling, doing paperwork for loads,pretrips,and such. Like most here I log 15 minutes for loading/unloading because most of the places don't allow drivers on the dock. It usually takes 2 hours to load /unload at the places I go to,so I get a 2 hour nap. While I don't do the 8 and 2 normally this would be one of the few times I would use it depending on who the shipper/reciever is.

 

I can see the concern here.

I really doubt that you can truly say that only 15 minutes is all that is attributed to the loading or unloading.

 

something to be wary of, and this came from a seasoned DOT auditor. If your log books are too accurate and too "exact" you'll more likely trigger a full audit then if you have a 15 or 20 minute fudge factor on a daily basis.

 

I have never heard that from any auditor. They seem to expect it, but have no problem with the accurate logs created by DDL and others.

 

As far as line 1 goes: You CANNOT use line 1 if you are in the truck. Yes, we all do, but if you read the regs and interpretations, if you're in the seat it's line 3 or 4, in the bunk is just that, physically in the sleeper, even though you might be doing the same thing as if you were up in the seat.

The only exception is if you're in the passenger seat and go off duty for a full break upon arrival at the terminal. That's under the old rules, not sure if that carried over to the new rules or not. **Where's that dang green book?!?**

So, if you're being perfectly legal, to be off duty at a dock, you must be either in the sleeper or out of the truck.

 

Wrong! They cannot do anything for you logging line 2 sleeper berth when in the dock. They cannot cite you for logging something that's true.

You might want to stop believing everything you here.

 

Dave thx. for this thread. the way i perceive Dave is logging his on duty time is: once he starts his day, he is working/avaiable to his company. i.e. hourly paid"

so in the true sense he is accounting for all his time...

if he were working for a LTL carrier/ typically paid hourly.

 

Roadmedic on average it takes me 15-20 mintues to check in and bump the dock. Of course it depends where I p/u or deliver. If I deliver to Coscto, WallyWorld, or a big DC it takes me longer and I log it. BTW most DOT bears know we fidge a little on logbooks and I noticed as long as it really isn't flagrant they aren't gonna say anything.