My first dump truck! advice please?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by cmb7684, Apr 26, 2011.

  1. cmb7684

    cmb7684 Bobtail Member

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    I have been driving a fire truck in Louisiana where emergency vehicle drivers are exempt from needing a cdl. The trucks are tandem's with one I was on for a while being 88,000lbs GVW and 47' long. All Automatics.

    I started my dump truck quest because I have several pieces of land that need a good amount of dirt. I figured I may be able to hustle some jobs on the side when I'm not working my regular job where my dad could drive for me as he is retired.

    I will now have to go test for my CDL. I have taken plenty of cdl type courses through the fire department. I'm pretty sure with a little review I can pass the written part and the driving part should not be a problem for me.

    I do not like standards so the truck I bought is an automatic. It is a 1993 Ford F900T with a cummins 8.3L6 motor. I will post a link to the auction I bought it from later when my post count allows it.

    While I'm used to driving larger vehicles I do not know anything about dump trucks.

    I quoted Insurance through progressive but was wondering who you all find the best agents to call for dump truck policies and lowest prices?

    What is the best method to hustle work?

    As far as the truck in the link is there anything I should be concerned with?

    I spoke to a guy a while back when I was looking at another truck. He registered the truck below 46,000 lbs with the state because apparently it saves him money but his truck actually weighed more. My trucks GVW is 52,000lbs 12,000 front and 40,000 rear). Progressive quoted me both weights. If in fact you can register it under 46,000lbs it cuts the premium in half on insurance. Is this a common practice or even possible?

    Any other pointers you can give me are appreciated.
     
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  3. notarps4me

    notarps4me Road Train Member

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    Watch for powerlines and dump on even ground.
     
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  4. cmb7684

    cmb7684 Bobtail Member

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    Yes I have seen a few videos of what weight transfer or uneven ground can cause when dumping.

    On a construction site what do you tell the contractor who is hirin you if he asks you to go dump on the rear of the lot or site where the ground may be soft or uneven? Usually I know they want you to dump as far back on a residential construction site so they have room for the several loads they will need. With the fire department trucks we are not allowed to leave the roadway so we dont have to judge uneven ground very often. How do you judge what you consider safe even ground if you are leaving the roadway on a construction site to avoid tipping of getting stuck?
     
  5. WitchingHour

    WitchingHour Road Train Member

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    You tell the site foreman, "I won't do that". You gotta watch these people, especially as a contractor. They don't really care that much if they lay your truck over in the process of doing what they're doing... well, they would care, but only after the fact.

    Are you planning on hauling aphalt with it at all?
     
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  6. Flying Dutchman

    Flying Dutchman Road Train Member

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    They want it as convenient as possible for them, with no regards to you or your equipment. Once you become a problem (get stuck, rollover) then you become the idiot and it's your fault.
     
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  7. WitchingHour

    WitchingHour Road Train Member

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    Oh, yeah... if your truck ever gets damaged by them, don't expect them to be particularly expedient in getting it taken care of. So, when the tack truck backs into you, hope the damage isn't too bad. Or when the trackhoe rips up your bedliner, get it in your mind you'll be doing without the bedliner from now on.

    And most asphalt haulers use diesel fuel to keep asphalt from sticking to their beds. Asphalt companies know it's going on, but generally have an "out of sight, out of mind" stance on it. So, if you do it, don't be the one who gets large puddles of it on the ground.
     
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  8. SL3406

    SL3406 Medium Load Member

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    WOW! Are you about to get some experience! If you plan to haul for hire you're going to have to get your own authority for starters.

    You can tag the truck for any weight you want. The downside is when stopped by the DOT if you're tagged for less than the truck is rated for you're guaranteed to be weighed. If you're over your tag weight thats a ticket even if you're not over weight on the axle and gross weight.

    The customers and contractors are going to try to put your truck in the worst places possible. Its your responsibility to say no when needed. If you can't agree on a dump spot haul the load back where you loaded it and let them find someone else to haul for them. You will be money ahead in the long run. Knowing when to say no just comes with experience.
     
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  9. cmb7684

    cmb7684 Bobtail Member

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    Yeah I guess they could care less about you and your property in most cases. I just wanted to see what is the norm from experienced drivers in those types of cases.

    Working the hydraulic ram to dump. I assume it may be like my old ladder truck where you have a pto switch and then hit another switch to raise or lower the ram. Are there any usual steps in between or does it vary greatly from truck to truck?
     
  10. badcompany

    badcompany Heavy Load Member

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    I've dumped in some crazy spots every vehicle has its limitations

    A regular dump truck is a lot more stable than say a 40 ft dump trailer seen many of those flopped over on their sides
     
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