My first solo run horror story.......

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by newtrucker2011, Apr 7, 2011.

  1. Kittyfoot

    Kittyfoot Crusty Ancient

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    Flat, your profile says you been in this game for 34 years, I've been around for 38, so we're about equal experience. So if you're gonna say you've never done what you're roasting this youngster about I call you (and I will to your face) a #### liar. Lighten the heck up.

    No, he should not have run illegal, that's a given. There are many points here where a more experienced guy would have put the brakes on. But this is a Newbie. He has not the bank of experience that you or I have. Basically he's scared and confused. This is his first job and he doesn't want to screw his career by doing the wrong thing. Easy for us to say he should have quit, walked away. But what does that give him? A nice little note in his record, "Quit in the middle of his job for no reason". Now who do you think future employers are gonna believe?

    Now if he keeps on doing it with this company, that's a whole nother thing.
     
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  3. tracyq144

    tracyq144 Heavy Load Member

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    Read the first poster's story, not really sure if I believe it or not, BUT...

    IF it's true, I give you kudos. Yes, a whole lot of maybe bad decisions, but he got the job done. THAT used to be the true test of a trucker. Nowadays, it's "did I do everything legal"?

    Legal's fine, and no doubt better in the long run, but truckers used to be a "breed" apart from others, a "breed" that could rightly consider themselves descendants from the old time cowboys (and cowgirls).

    Nowadays? Not so much. :(
     
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  4. FLATBED

    FLATBED Road Train Member

    Kittyfoot , it's not about you me or anyone else , but the way that he GETS encouragement and praise for doing what he supposedly did.

    Back when I was new I did things that were not right as did you and most others , but I never drove for CASH.

    I checked out the truck / trailers before they moved 1 foot and I have walked away from jobs because I was not RISKING my neck nor the necks of others by driving JUNK.

    As for QUITTING in the middle of the job , as others posted he saw what he was getting into before he started , so stop with him being a poor soul who was taken by the mean trucking outfit.


    Still say if a MAJOR carrier was named you all would be up in arms that he was FORCED to work under such conditions , but this clown goes with the flow and its all OK.
     
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  5. ronin

    ronin Road Train Member

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    CASH is the culprit? Really? Driving for cash? I've done side work with my tow truck. I've helped buddies move, and only pizza and beer - the horror! No 1099!

    I've won karaoke contests and have been paid CASH. I think the cash payments is the least of this carrier's issues... and the young men would do good to move on quickly.

    I don't approve of anything this carrier has done, and a bigger company wouldn't have 99% of those issues - and that's why I told him to run like hell - I'm just glad that he completed the run and didn't strand himself somewhere with no money, no way home, and a bad reference.
     
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  6. Kittyfoot

    Kittyfoot Crusty Ancient

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    Exactly.

    Look, let's not pretend that when we "old guys" started out we did not do things that would not pass muster today. Heck, when I started we had no log books; we ran our guts out because that's what the job was. Stupid? According to today's view you betcha. But you ran like that or you didn't work. Remember West Coast Turnarounds or Bennie is My Co-pilot?? Of course you do. So no, I'm not gonna get all righteous on him. HE knows it was dumb. Now he knows what he should do from this point on.

    What we should be outraged at is the fact that this kind of outfit is still out there.
     
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  7. stevlangdon

    stevlangdon Bobtail Member

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    But did ya'll not read his other posts??? He is still working for them!!! Thats where I have a problem!!! Holy Crap someone will get hurt if he keeps drivin that kinda junk truck and dosen't have exp to deal with problems that come up....
     
  8. ronin

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    That's why I, for one, recommended that he run hard the other way. If it's not this guy, though, they'll have someone else running that truck - danged shame companies have to operate like that.
     
  9. Wargames

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    Im impressed with the years of service with the drivers here. I wouldn`t argue with any of you. Every one of you guys have valid points on this whole ordeal. I just hope he is reading all of your post, and he learns something from this.
     
  10. newtrucker2011

    newtrucker2011 Light Load Member

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    Ok, I had to step away from this entire thread when a bunch of posters started flaming me, and calling me a liar or whatnot - I dont feel like defending myself on an internet message board, I was merely just trying to relay my story.

    After reading all of the comments I want to clarify a few things for you all here.

    I was laid off my job (non trucking) of 8 years because of the economy. I collected unemployment. I was searching for another job in my industry, nothing.......

    I got a letter from unemployment that I was eligible for job training, I decided that there seemed to be plenty of CDL jobs in the want ads - and recieved a WIA grant to attend CDL school.

    After recieving my CDL - the only companies offering me jobs wanted to pay me $400 a week or less and be gone for 2 to 3 months from home. That was just unacceptable for me. I applied for jobs on my own, looking for a local job. Nobody would hire me locally - need 1-2 years experience minimum.

    Now - I was caught between a rock and a hard place. Unemployment running out, big wedding that has been in the works for over a year coming up......... what to do ?

    Offered a job with this company - driving OTR short hauls 3-4 days a week, home 3-4 days a week. Pays cash, yeah that is not good - BUT, I can still collect the last few months of my unemployment, and also gain the experience I need to get a local job.

    As far as inspecting "my" truck before we hit the road - didn't happen. My truck was ALREADY hooked up to the back of captain redbull's truck. He pulled up, I grabbed my bags and jumped into his garbage can and off we went.

    Now, I have NOT gone on another run since this story - dispatch did call me to set up another run, I told them that until all of the safety issues were corrected on my truck I would not set foot inside of it again, I do not want to risk a ticket or breakdown or worse. Did I just shoot myself in the foot ? Maybe. But maybe, just maybe - they will actually fix the #### problems I listed in a full page post trip I turned in with my paperwork from the run. If that truck gets a DOT inspection in the current condition, it is a pile of tickets waiting to happen and I do NOT want my name on them.

    If they fix the truck and call me up and send me on another Atlanta or 3-4 day run will I go ? Yes. I need the money, I have no other job, and I refuse to work slave labor.

    Slave labor - let me explain my math. Swift pays $400 a week to new drivers for their first 2 to 3 months on the road, being gone 95% of that time. $400 a week is $57 dollars a day, and considering you are gone from home the entire time, is $57 dollars a day really worth it ? AFter taxes you are bringing home $300 a week. Now you have to eat on the road, wash your clothes, buy supplies. I just cant do that.

    This guy pays me well, but after being home from my run and reflecting on it - I am glad to be home safely, and to have made the money, but I definately would not do it again like that. I know now that if dispatch gives me a dock time that is impossible to run legally to refuse it or let them know. You are right - it is MY CDL.

    Thanks to all of you who have given me some honest advice, the good and the bad.

    I will update with what happens.
     
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  11. ‘Olhand

    ‘Olhand Cantankerous Crusty

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    Ok we have both been out here a looooong time--as for coming up the hard way--Haulin ##### to market for the family farm etc...youngest(@time)put up with more than my share of it all--oldest daycab(running fla-NYC or Windy)that last generation started out in--just the way it was--BUT--when did YOU run without some form of logbook?
    Just wondering?
     
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