My IFTA account is flagged

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by m16ty, Aug 11, 2022.

  1. Derailed

    Derailed Road Train Member

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    Sounds normal. I ran intrastate only a couple of years in a row in NY and they wouldn't let me renew my IRP when the time came which in turn makes you ineligible for ifta. Less headaches to deal with now anyway
     
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  3. BUMBACLADWAR

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    The IRS are interested in whether or not you are using " untaxed" off road diesel. Actually was " pulled over by DOT on a bogus reason" " I think your landing gear was blocking your tractor brake lights, I didn't notice them" ,in Ft. Scott Kansas. " Well, I'll be dogged, they work". Here's an authorization from the IRS, giving me authority to check your tanks for off- road diesel.
     
  4. wis bang

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    I'm sure the international portion of IFTA, as it was adopted across the entire country has some Federal connection so the IRS would be in the mix.

    I remember when NJ and OR were the last two states not in IRP when the Feds forced the issue ending the last of the reciprocity agreements.

    In true NJ fashion they copied everyone else with their own twist.

    2290 in hand were were able to get pre-apportioned plates at any of the MVC 'agencies' where truckers 'in the know' were able to use the dealer line and get it done without standing in that long line.

    IRP ended up being a federal program and only state employees could issue Apportioned plates so the agencies could not do it making every one schlep down to Trenton to get the new 'Apportioned' plates.

    30 years later it is still the same.

    Currently the IRP and IFTA offices are now next to each other in a convenient location with parking instead of the 5th floor of MVC's main offices with street parking.
     
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  5. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

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    This is why I go through a licensing agency to deal with the ######## instead of doing it myself.
     
  6. seamutt

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    My theory is that most likely there is a fairly efficient system for taking date/time/location stamped license plate data, and then comparing that data electronically to your IFTA return. So for example if you say you have driven zero miles, but your truck's picture has been snapped driving all over the state? That would equal trouble.
     
  7. m16ty

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    I’ve driven plenty of miles, they were just all within the State of TN. The zero sum is what caused the flag, meaning the mileage reported and the gallons purchased matched exactly.

    Most coops have plate readers, and there are just random pate readers throughout the country that they don’t advertise. I have no idea if they go into a DOT database, but I’d say there is a good chance the readers at the coops do.
     
  8. RedForeman

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    Maybe it's different in your state. I can say with certainty that the auditors employed by the Georgia Dept of Revenue are not anywhere close to that level of forensic crime fighting mastermind skill, and never will be.
     
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  9. seamutt

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    That's reassuring to hear (I had an honest oops last quarter, and forgot to report my 'Colorado' miles), but I wonder exactly how the states do achieve any form of enforcement with IFTA? In my comment I was only guessing, however I am confident in saying that, generally, the network of license plate reading cameras around these days is...extensive.
     
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  10. RedForeman

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    Best I can tell, they correlate logbooks to the trip summaries, then 2nd guess the routes using Fuel Miles software. A common mishap would be running PA into or from Hudson Valley NY. Software will go via 287 in NJ, not I-81 up via Scranton and then I-84 the way I would go. They see the mileage difference and flag it without looking at the trip segments to see the reported mileage is good.

    I'm also running my mileage and trip reports off an ELD, which removes any misunderstanding about what route the truck actually took. That was my get out of jail free card when protesting the attempted claim.
     
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  11. m16ty

    m16ty Road Train Member

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    If you read the IFTA bylaws, each state is required to audit a percentage of their accounts each year. My number came up a few years ago.
    They match fuel receipts with logs and mileage. In my experience (TN) they are pretty lenient with honest mistakes, but will throw the book at you if they smell you were trying to defraud or just don’t care. When the dust settled they ended up owing me $13 for a mistake I made.
    If you are audited, you could have to pay your CO taxes, plus interest, and maybe a fine. The worst scenario, even if you do your reporting correctly, is not having records to back up your reports. No records and it didn’t happen, and you could end up paying taxes for all your fuel again.
     
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