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My MicroBlue experience

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by gokiddogo, Jun 3, 2012.

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  1. Apr 14, 2013 #101
    Ridgeline

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    I have a question it may be answered but I don't remember seeing it - what is the payback time for a conversion to MB bearings?
     
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  3. Apr 15, 2013 #102
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    It will be different for everyone. 3 axle tractor you can expect about 3/10 gain. Add trailer 2 axles and those will add another 4/10. This is provided you install them correctly. I believe the end play must be set to 0.004".

    The parts cost $950 for tractor and $650 for trailer. $1600 for parts and let's do 2 scenarios, you do the job yourself and you pay $1000 to have them installed. We will also assume diesel holds $4/g.

    $1600:
    If your mpg now is 5 mpg (0.80) goes to 5.7 (0.70), then payback = 16,000 miles
    If your mpg now is 6 mpg (0.67) goes to 6.7 (0.60), then payback = 22,857 miles
    If your mpg now is 7 mpg (0.57) goes to 7.7 (0.52), then payback = 32,000 miles
    If your mpg now is 8 mpg (0.50) goes to 8.7 (0.46), then payback = 40,000 miles

    $2600:
    If your mpg now is 5 mpg (0.80) goes to 5.7 (0.70), then payback = 26,000 miles
    If your mpg now is 6 mpg (0.67) goes to 6.7 (0.60), then payback = 37,142 miles
    If your mpg now is 7 mpg (0.57) goes to 7.7 (0.52), then payback = 52,000 miles
    If your mpg now is 8 mpg (0.50) goes to 8.7 (0.46), then payback = 65,000 miles
     
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  4. Apr 15, 2013 #103
    ironpony

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    Looks about right to me. Of course, if you're getting above 7.5 mpg before microblue bearings, a 0.3 mpg increase is huge at that level. It's hard to find fuel economy savings that large once one is up in that region.
     
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  5. Apr 20, 2013 #104
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    I'm curious if after an inframe with MB you can use the new 10-30 oil instead of 15-40. This will increase fuel mileage. Also can lighter oils be used in trans and rears?
     
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  7. Apr 20, 2013 #105
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    Don't know about mb , but cat has been recommending 10w30 in the acerts for a couple of years. Unless your in Death Valley ....
     
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  8. May 5, 2013 #106
    jerry123

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    Micro Blue: Im going to buy/try the treated Wheel Bearings.

    I'll need to know this products real value in MPG increase/decrease.

    First, I need to established my trucks pre-micro blue treated wheel bearings MPG, taken from at least 3-4K gallons of diesel fuel purchases. (idle time, dead head, variable loaded weights...hauling a 53' reefer trl.).

    After I've install the treated wheel bearings, then I'll follow up by posting my results...ANY CHANGES, +/- to my trucks MPG at 1K gallons, 2K gallons, etc...up to 5K gallons of diesel purchasing.
    (If, im missing something add a note...I work hard all day, and, don't get involved with starting Case Studies.)

    A description of My Truck is: 2006 Freightliner Columbia, MBE 4000, auto trans, smart shift 10spd. Tires are Michelin Lo-Pro 22.5. (new tires, using balancing beads.). Pre-Micro Blue Wheel Bearings Avg.Mpg @ 1300 gallons, 6.62 MPG. I still need to gather more data on my fuel purchases before the treated wheel bearing purchase. (to be Continued)
     
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  9. May 5, 2013 #107
    Ridgeline

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    Thanks for the info, I can see the pay back. I have to ask a follow up,

    have these been tested by any lab or some sort of controlled test with some standardized testing for comparison?
     
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  10. May 6, 2013 #108
    ironpony

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    You should see 0.3 to 0.5 mpg improvement.

    Microblue has been used in the aviation and racing world for years. It's proven technology, from NASA research and development, I believe. So, when it comes to trucks, give Bruce Malinson a call at Pittsburgh Power. They have documented the results from a microblue engine rebuild via the power delivered to the wheels on a dyno.
     
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  11. May 6, 2013 #109
    gokiddogo

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    Do you own the trailer also? I would point anyone to do your trailer axles first. I saw an immediate .4 mpg gain from doing 2 axle reefer. This was after i did my 3 axle tractor and saw .3 gain. Tranny and rear ends are on my list. eventually the engine when it is time.
     
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  12. May 6, 2013 #110
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    A great website to post fuel mileage results and compare with a few thousand other trucks posted on there is: www.mygauges.com

    This includes alot trucks with Microblue modifications documented.
     
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