My new adventure with Gordon Trucking

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  1. Blu_Ogre

    Blu_Ogre Road Train Member

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    Why am I anticipating Tow taking that olive branch and using it like a flail?????
     
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    Victor, you sure do love your links. Do you receive any sort of financial compensation for pass-through traffic? Just curious...
     
  4. Victor_V

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    I get an attaboy from tow614, now and then, when he isn't trying to leave tire tracks all over my front lawn. Real answer: no. TTR's just sort of addicting and I share my research. Following the links is always optional.


    /See? Thanks, tow.

    //More than once TTR has pointed out to me to use links rather than carry complete posts over from one thread to another.
     
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    I enjoy reading Victors links & commentary.


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    I'm going to say this. A member of the corporate side of Heartland came right here to my thread. And didnt just sneak, that person came here and, if course defended their company, but did so to ease fears that many GTI drivers have. Coming here shows an interest in the GTI driver force and a willingness to try and retain us. Heartland knows what they have at GTI. Some of the most loyal drivers in the industry. It could be a dog and pony show, or it could be that they are really interested in retaining the drivers here. Either way, they sought us out. Things to remember is GTI doesn't have the same customers. They also don't have the same business model when it comes to planning, loads, etc. they aren't going to rock that boat too much, it will disrupt the profitability of GTI. They just spent an obscene amount of money to acquire GTI. I'm going to stick with my original statement. Don't get too crazy. Lets see what happens. Heartland buying GTI could be good for the heartland drivers, because they are seeing what it takes to retain drivers. It could be good for GTI because it means a boost in pay. Lets wait it out. Don't jump ship in haste. I never have liked Heartland, never went to work for them, but I will give it a chance. I think others should at least try and see what happens. We know have a terminal network that spans the country, maybe truck washes included, but it opens more parking, and possibly faster shop times for drivers. I'm going to be updating the progress of this acquisition from a drivers' perspective, I hope others will too. While some things may not change for the better, others may. Lets see. Hell, most didnt like when Obama was elected. We weren't jumping out of the country. And while some things are worse, some are better. Lets give it a chance.
     
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    Uhh.. i still dont like obama being president..but we are on the downhill side of that one now...

    So.. are you going to update the title to your thread

    My new adventure with gordon...no wait .. heartland...

    Or maybe we could go in together and start a new one .. joe and tow's excellent adventure...:fart:
     
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  8. sc00ter

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    Well, interesting reading and interesting times ahead for GTI drivers and staff. Thanks to Victor for posting researched info! My major concern is of HLTD knowing their turnover rate (as most other trucking companies) and yet time and time again fail to take meaningful steps to address this expense. Truth be known, I'm getting to think that all these companies count on turnover to keep driver the company's driver pay down. GTI has entered the merry-go-round and revolving door of drivers. Basically, my hope is that Heartland drivers would be the big winner in this deal as almost any improvement in equipment or driver comfort will be a step up. For us GTI drivers, I can only wait and see what develops. When I quit GTI last August to go back to Shaffer ("Where there are no shortcuts" to the poor farm), I quickly found out that top pay ($.45cpm) plus low miles is nothing to be proud of. Top pay means absolutely nothing is the miles (think 2800+) aren't there with it. I run out west and stay out west. This is my season, Nov-Mar, as I feel very comfortable driving in winter weather conditions. I actually do better in those 5 months than the rest of the year as I don't have to compete with "fair-weather" truckers. The down-side to that is that I lose most of my incentive bonus because my fuel mileage is down...the plus side is my miles are alot better (I consistently run about 35000mi per quarter). I'm really concerned by the lack of posts by HTLD drivers. Why no posts? Bottom line is this, I'm going to be comfortable in my truck, winter or summer, and I'm not taking a step back into the 20th century. The driver retention problem is easy to fix. Obviously, HTLD has made huge investments in their facilities, equipment, and customers. Now, imho, it is time to invest in the drivers...you know, the guys and gals that move the freight that make the money? Bunk heaters are great during the winter. Not so great in Phoenix or Rancho Cucamonga in July and August. Opti-idle? Not an option, for me anyway. I drove for a small-fleet owner that was leased on the Burlington Motor Carriers (yes, I've been driving that long!) who disabled that feature because it didn't do any good in extreme weather conditions. GTI trucks are spec'd with an Arctic package, which means they actually stay warm in the winter and will work the same way in the heat of summer. My idle time is >2% with an apu, and that's where GTI gets 7.2mpg versus HTLD's 6.7mpg (which, I understand, Mr. Gerdin was very proud of until Mr. Gordon spoke of GTI's fleet average.) Invest in the drivers in meaningful equipment upgrades and just in treating the drivers right (think home-time and load offerings). I don't want to go back to the old days of being up all day and then finding out at 1600 I've got a 400 miler that picks up at 1900 and has to be delivered at 0500 the next morning. I'm hoping that both companies can learn and take the best from each other. Hear that...it's opportunity knocking...is anybody home?
     
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  9. sc00ter

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    Is George Carlin coming back in his role...he could probably make sense of all this!
     
  10. Victor_V

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    Here's sc00ter with paragraphs for readability:

    Well, interesting reading and interesting times ahead for GTI drivers and staff.

    Thanks to Victor for posting researched info!

    My major concern is of HLTD knowing their turnover rate (as most other trucking companies) and yet time and time again fail to take meaningful steps to address this expense. Truth be known, I'm getting to think that all these companies count on turnover to keep driver the company's driver pay down. GTI has entered the merry-go-round and revolving door of drivers.

    Basically, my hope is that Heartland drivers would be the big winner in this deal as almost any improvement in equipment or driver comfort will be a step up. For us GTI drivers, I can only wait and see what develops. When I quit GTI last August to go back to Shaffer ("Where there are no shortcuts" to the poor farm), I quickly found out that top pay ($.45cpm) plus low miles is nothing to be proud of.

    Top pay means absolutely nothing is the miles (think 2800+) aren't there with it. I run out west and stay out west. This is my season, Nov-Mar, as I feel very comfortable driving in winter weather conditions. I actually do better in those 5 months than the rest of the year as I don't have to compete with "fair-weather" truckers. The down-side to that is that I lose most of my incentive bonus because my fuel mileage is down...the plus side is my miles are alot better (I consistently run about 35000mi per quarter).

    I'm really concerned by the lack of posts by HTLD drivers. Why no posts? Bottom line is this, I'm going to be comfortable in my truck, winter or summer, and I'm not taking a step back into the 20th century. The driver retention problem is easy to fix. Obviously, HTLD has made huge investments in their facilities, equipment, and customers.

    Now, imho, it is time to invest in the drivers...you know, the guys and gals that move the freight that make the money? Bunk heaters are great during the winter. Not so great in Phoenix or Rancho Cucamonga in July and August. Opti-idle? Not an option, for me anyway. I drove for a small-fleet owner that was leased on the Burlington Motor Carriers (yes, I've been driving that long!) who disabled that feature because it didn't do any good in extreme weather conditions.

    GTI trucks are spec'd with an Arctic package, which means they actually stay warm in the winter and will work the same way in the heat of summer. My idle time is >2% with an apu, and that's where GTI gets 7.2mpg versus HTLD's 6.7mpg (which, I understand, Mr. Gerdin was very proud of until Mr. Gordon spoke of GTI's fleet average.) Invest in the drivers in meaningful equipment upgrades and just in treating the drivers right (think home-time and load offerings).

    I don't want to go back to the old days of being up all day and then finding out at 1600 I've got a 400 miler that picks up at 1900 and has to be delivered at 0500 the next morning. I'm hoping that both companies can learn and take the best from each other. Hear that...it's opportunity knocking


    /Hope ya don't mind, sc00ter!
     
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