My Quality Drivers/Celadon experience April 2014

Discussion in 'Trucking Schools and CDL Training Forum' started by dumbolnd, Apr 21, 2014.

  1. Atlas117

    Atlas117 Bobtail Member

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    For training purposes they'll try to match you with someone that seems to be a good fit. I'm not sure what happens after that point. Maybe someone else can explain a little more. The only driver I ever had come out of the training program was running solo when he graduated from the school. Things have changed since then.
     
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  3. dumbolnd

    dumbolnd Light Load Member

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    Day 7:

    I didn't do as well backing on the range today as I did yesterday or even this morning and ran over a couple cones. The shuttle schedule changed to half an hour later than it had been so I couldn't run to the BMV to take my final endorsement test after classes. You have to get there an hour before closing and I was 17 minutes too late. Now that I am done whining... The range instructor was happy to give some extra time that was available to anyone that is waiting to see if they can get extra practice which is how I got some practice in this morning.
     
  4. dumbolnd

    dumbolnd Light Load Member

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    Atlas117,
    Thank you. It is good to know that the bonus isn't treated like Lucy treats Charlie Brown's football.

    Fishnman,
    That is good advice no matter what someone chooses to do and I will try to keep it in mind.

    Mr.Steampunk,
    No worries about hijacking the thread. You might ask something I want to know as well. From what I have been told so far, you are encouraged to find a team driver from among the other students while you are at school. I just don't know what happens if you can't find one or if the team driver of your choice isn't ready when it is time for you to start team driving.
     
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  5. Gordon A

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    When I trained, I set my rules. I expected the company and the new driver to abide by them. Several of us got together and felt we the trainers needed to be trained or at least schooled in how to train. . I wanted to know how to teach what I already knew. It is not easy, at least for me it wasn't.The company saw it our way and brought in people to do just that.

    I took no smokers or chewers. We did not drive like a team truck until after the 3rd week or so if my trainee was ready. I let the new driver do it at their pace. Some took longer to get used to the long hrs behind the wheel and the constant change of working hours. I stressed the importance of not becoming hypnotized by the road and to keep scanning the mirrors and gauges. I could not teach from the bunk.

    When I first met my new drivers I had the company pay for a motel room and supper. I wanted us to get to know each other in non stressful conditions like over supper ,relaxed. I knew how stressed they might be coming off a long bus ride and I wanted them to make good judgment calls an decisions. We might fit together as trainer and trainee and we might not.
    I did not care where on the list they graduated . 1st or last or how good at backing etc as I was going to see for my self how good they were at it.

    For some reason it seemed I was often the 2nd or 3rd trainer for some of them. Yes, I failed some and sent them home. Couple of others I gave to another trainer as we could not communicate well and that was short changing the new driver. It happens that way some times. I tried to give all of them a fair shake and the benefit of the doubt. Just a few did not make it. Like the one that could not get the use of mirrors down right and ran a Cadillac off in the ditch in FLA.Home ward bound by greyhound. He could not look behind and along side and missed the car next to the drives.

    I find today that far too many drivers with 2 or 3 or more years get upset when they have to sit behind some one that takes what they consider too many pull ups to back in. They forgot their first day at trucking. That pisses me off . We all had our first day at every thing we do. Our first step, or first time on a bike ,the first time behind the wheel of a car. the first time at every thing we do.

    Ok,,,I am done now. I just wanted to let off some steam and let some of you new drivers know I feel your pain and frustration .
     
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  6. Spm

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    Thanks Fish. The reason I ask is because to finish the 240,000 miles in one year, it seems teams would have to average 20,000 miles a month or 5,000 miles a week. Any less than that and it could take well over a year
     
  7. mr.steampunk

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    I talked to the Quality Drivers Recruiter today, Amanda was her name. OF course I am aware that recruiters in this industry often "shape" the truth to make it sound like the best job in the galaxy. With that said, I was able to sift through some of the obvious sales pitch and pick out a few grains to take a closer look at.

    Ok school takes 3-4 sometimes 5 weeks depending on the individual. If you are highly motivated, study a lot, and volunteer to do everything first, you should be around the 3 week range as long as you pass your tests. Of course, things happen, and it could take 4....seems like in order for it to take 5 you must have messed up somewhere a long the line.

    Right now, Celadon has agreed to take....and here was a phrase she repeated a couple of times...."Qualified Graduates" into their training program after completion of CDL training and the acquiring of an actual CDL A license. "Qualified Graduates" meaning pass physical, drug test, background check including verifiable employment history and verifiable driving record, proper housing history and so forth. DRug test and physical are given upon arrival at Quality Drivers and may be repeated during orientation of necessary. Blech.....ok enough quoting from my notes.....lol.

    120k miles OTR as a team and tuition requirement is obligated. At that point keep driving as a team or go solo in one of the other fleets Celadon has to offer. Amanda mentioned that the 120k does not start until after the otr training portion has been completed and you are dispatched as a company driver. It is possible you will be teamed with someone from your class or not. It is also possible to team with someone who has finished the 120k obligation and wishes to drive team, or partially finished and what not......

    So far this training route is the one I am leaning towards. MTC in missouri is also a school I am considering, but not a lot of good has been mentioned about them. Other than they are a school and offer sponsored tuition programs form several other carriers like US Express, Werner and Hogan........
     
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  8. mr.steampunk

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    A couple of real quick questions.

    1. Are there simulators you can access in your own time to practice? I have a friend who drives and said the program he went through had simulators and computer programs to help out with everything from driving to trip planning....just curious.

    2.You mentioned no school on the weekends, do you know what the students who stay over the weekend do to keep busy, or is it just lounge around and catch some sort of shuttle to the mall or something.

    3. When you graduate, are you going to have a few days to go home before reporting to orientation? I am considering driving myself to school, but only if I get a few days after graduation to drive home and store my car....if not I guess I will take the bus or something. Only reason I ask, is that I am a pretty private guy, quiet, reserved, don't make a bunch of noise. IF there is free time on the weekends, it would be nice to hop in my car and just get away and find a nice chill spot to enjoy the outside world, people watch, that sort of thing.....so just curious what the schedule after graduating is like.
     
  9. dumbolnd

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    Day 8:

    I drove to the school this morning so that I could go take my Hazmat test if I wasn't assigned to one of the ranges. I wasn't and I passed. So I now have all of the endorsements. I watched the backing range for part of the morning but tried to stay out of the sun since I got a sunburn yesterday. Very important reminder, bring sunscreen because you spend at least 3 hours standing in the sun when you are out on the backing range. After lunch, I was assigned to the backing range but my name was called to drive in one of the trucks. Each of the training trucks has 4 students and an instructor and each of the students gets a turn driving the truck. So, I got to drive for the very first time today. I didn't hit anything and only stalled once so I am calling it a good day.

    There was a very minor incident with two of the training trucks. One of the other trucks came up on our left side and then turned to the right directly in front of us. There was only minor, minor damage (a scrape on the fender mirror and the bumper) but it was scary. Thankfully, I wasn't driving when it happened because it was very nerve-wracking.
     
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  10. dumbolnd

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    1. There are no simulators. If you have a computer you might look into a simulator to see if there is a good one. The school has Wi-fi and the dorms have a computer room.

    2. I don't know what the people that stay in the dorms do on the weekends but you are free to go wherever you please. From what I hear, the most common pastimes are studying, drinking and walking around. The cafeteria is available for meals and there is a shuttle from the hotel to the school for that. I am told that you can catch a shuttle to Walmart and other places but I don't know how that works.

    3. There is usually a few days of waiting between your Celadon Orientation and being assigned a trainer that would work for returning your car to your home but keep in mind that is something the school won't reimburse and if you aren't here when they find you a trainer you will get bumped down the list. How far is home from Indianapolis?

    Hope that helps.
     
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  11. dumbolnd

    dumbolnd Light Load Member

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    Day 9:
    I got to practice straight and offset backing and parallel parking today but I am getting a little frustrated by the lack of practice time. The instructors are happy to let you have extra practice when time allows but, with so many of us trying to get extra practice time, there isn't much of that available. I have heard that there are trucks available after school to practice Pretrip and in-cab inspections. I will be headed back over to the school in a few hours to practice that with some of my classmates.
     
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