My Start at O/O

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Xanix, Oct 5, 2009.

  1. Captain Canuck

    Captain Canuck "Captain of the Ship"

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    I make that much as a company OTR driver. My projections show that when I go O/O next year (leased on to a company) I'm looking at net profit closer to $90K. My company pays owner ops a base rate of $1.08 empty, $1.10 full, plus surcharge on all miles of $.305 . Other companies pay better or worse than that.

    I know a few guys who have tried to go the route you're talking about. You are basically setting yourself up to fail right off the bat.

    My biggest question is this: why on Earth would you do this for 17 cents a mile? That is less than half of what many OTR company drivers make.

    Do yourself a favor... learn the business first, then if you still want to do this, scale back your plans.

    A $108,000 truck doesn't earn any more money per mile than a $20,000 truck. The same goes for trailers.

    I would strongly advise you to get your CDL first (you didn't say if you already had it, so I'm assuming you don't), and go OTR for a company for at LEAST a year. You may discover that the whole industry just makes you ill, and if you do, you aren't stuck trying to unload $300K worth of equipment.
     
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  3. KO1927

    KO1927 Medium Load Member

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    Interesting choice of username....

    Don't forget, that as an O/O you still must enroll in a drug testing program.

    Now back to advice from more experienced drivers.
     
  4. Xanix

    Xanix Bobtail Member

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    bullhaulerswife: LOL the turbo part made me laugh :p
    Gears:
    well i dont know the exact amount that o/o get freight for per mile

    and driving 11 hours per day for 70 hours in 8 days is better then what i do now. seriously i drive 1 hr to work then do a 10-14 hour day delivering product then drive 1 hour back and repeat that 5 days a week. at least i would get more sleep driving my own rig and possibly make more money plus have benefits.
     
  5. jagerbomber3.0

    jagerbomber3.0 Light Load Member

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    This thread is just amazing in so many ways.I get the feeling you are not going to heed much advice from anyone on here. Let us know how telling the bank you want 300K goes. I will definitely be following this thread.
     
  6. RW.

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    Please listen to the people on here, they're trying to give you some advice to keep you from making a big mistake. You seem like you have a little ability to crunch numbers, but only a rudimentary idea of what the OTR world is like. Get a job driving for someone else first so you can learn the ropes, make your beginner's mistakes in someone else's truck. You owe that much to your family.
     
  7. Old Man

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    What benefits? You forgot to factor in health insurance, add another $600 to $1000 a month to your spread sheet.
     
  8. Xanix

    Xanix Bobtail Member

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    jagerbomber3.0
    well i am taking some advise from people here,, a few members made some good points about my child being with me so im not going to be taking her along, my wife will come with me every now and then tho. and its going to take me a few months before i hear anything from the SBA as im not going to the bank for an SBA loan. i already know i will have to sit with consultants go to a few seminars and even take a business finance class before they even give me the loan. the whole process takes about 1-12 months. but the intrest is only a 5% rate and the SBA does full startups in most cases and require nothing down. if i went to the bank they would be laughing at me because i have nothing down.

    Old Man
    please re look at my spreadsheet as health insur. has been there sense the start.

    RW.
    i would love to but its a double edge sword. i called all the training / starter carriers and when i have told them im in school getting my cdl and tell them i have no OTR exp they want nothing to do with me. Also i realy want my own bathroom on my rig plus a shower.

    Everyone else. some of your advise like an old truck making the same money as a new truck, well i could get an old truck for 10 - 30k and put a used custom sleeper on it for 15k but then i ask myself how long will the truck last? what will break on it? has it been kept up? i feel much better running a new truck that i know has no issues with it. i plan on running for 4 years hard im pretty sure at the end of the 4 years even with maint on it the truck might start falling apart.

    the truckers ive talked to all said the same things like im nutz, no newbie has ever done it and made it, your going to fail. i really dont see the difference of me driving now or when i worked for Krispy Kreme driving a 24ft box truck 16 hours a day.
    i dont see how driving bothers people so much or why everyone likes to paint a negative picture about the trucking industry. the reason why trucking pays very well is the fact you have no real life anymore because your married to the road and the truck. i mean if its that bad in trucking why is there so many truckers?
    i would love to run local and work for someone else but companies like coke cola or any CDL jobs always ask first how many OTR years do you have? its like you have to be OTR to get a local driving job from what it seems in NJ. I have put allot of thought into this and i know i can do it and make money. i just dont know how much i will make but i know i will make a profit. I have had my own company before doing industrial cleaning and i sold it off and turned a profit, i have been an accounts receivable / payable , payroll administrator, Computer tech, laborer , roofer, sheet rocker, ditch digger, fast food worker, waiter, dishwasher, and the past 4 years have all been some sort of delivery driver.
     
  9. mlt003

    mlt003 Bobtail Member

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    With all due respect, after 9 years in the business and my personal experience, please do not spend the money to get a sleeper modification. They are way over priced first of all, next if you are serious about owning a truck, no matter if it is a straight truck, or a class 8 truck, you have to stay out on the road just to meet the fuel, insurance and repair bills that will indeed come along, even if you buy a new truck, there are road hazards, that cause flat tires, 150.00 to plug a tire including whatever mileage charge the road repair persons charge mine in the rockies in colo. was 3.00 a mile x 33 miles. ouch!!

    Next thing to consider, if I understood correctly, you want to have family on your truck also? Showers are $8.00 to $10.00 depending on where you stop, now a lot of folks might say hey! you get a free shower for every 50 gallons of fuel you purchae, wrong!! one shower per fill up 50 or more gallons of fuel. Also, do you want to feed your famiy out of these trucks stops? you will be spending all of your money to just try to feed yourselves and keep clean, it is rough as I do to eat cheap, from cans more often than not and take a bird bath when I don't have a shower on my rewards card, but I cannot fathom, the way freight is now, or ever, having my wife and child long term on the truck and being able to make my payments, insurance, and feed them on the road.

    In short, you must be willing to sacrifice time home and family if this is the path you choose, unless there is an wasome local oportunity, i personally know of tri axle dump truck drivers when construction was rocking, who were clearing 3k 4k 500 as owner operators, here in my area, depending on how many hours were worked, and how reliablw you were.

    Again, I say this all, with the utmost respect, and mean no offense, I am just sharing my observations and knowlege. God Bless, and the very best to you and yours.
     
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  10. Curious1

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    I to am going to weigh in..I have a few questions for you too:biggrin_25517:
    I don't think the drivers here are bothered by driving 70 hrs. in 8 days. I can tell you sometimes (quite a few) it won't happen. You have to realize we run logbooks and we have to adhere to what the DOT says...When you begin your day you are only allowed to drive up to 14 hrs. later. So, on days when you unload and load you may not get to drive 3 hours! The clock is what stops us. So, your 11 hour days are shot down.

    Going OTR is where you gain experience. Somedays when your lucky it is driving down the interstate ONLY. Somedays it is backroads, in city, interstate, mountains, rain, snow and ice. We see it and deal with it all. Local companies KNOW we have been exposed to the extremes and can deal with it.

    Each driver is out here for a diferent reasons. Some of us love it and some of us don't. MANY are very well educated. Many have owned their own business before or still do.

    The world of truck driving can be a very negative world. I say it like that because it truly is a different world. If you have never been out here and dealt with all that goes on you really can NOT understand. We deal with FILTH in all shapes and forms. We go to some of the most dangerous places.

    Ok, thats it for some of my comments. Heres my questions:

    If drivers that are experienced have told you your crazy and this will fail why do you think it will work? Please do not tell us because of your other business.

    Have you asked yourself: "I wonder why all the o/o don't WANT a bathroom and shower in their truck?"

    Why are all of the experienced drivers suggesting you go to work at a company?

    Just curious what you think.
     
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