My wife and I are finally going to training for C. R. England

Doubt it. You are keeping the revolving door of CRE spinning. There's a million more like you who will learn the hard way.

 

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Ah newbies, they come in with the stupid 'we will never fail' attitude, and leave with no house, no cash, and sometimes no spouse.

You say what you want there, but I am a husband wife team, and you are no competition to me. Or any of these drivers. You work for the lowest rung on the chain in terms of loads, pay, and driver treatment. 90 days and you want to act like you know it all, thats whats making these guys rile up.

This forum is littered with dreamers with big mouths, or in this case, big typing skills whom tried to play the long established system and failed. You are not special. You are not different. You may end up out of CRE with less damage to your DAC then most, maybe. But you will still end up with 90 days exp when most companies are looking for 6 months min. Team or not.

Let me put it to you this way, sweetie.

a) If they try to force you into a lease and you refuse, and if by some miracle something happens and they actually let you go company driver, which is not likely but hey lets go and say it happens, the millasecond they have one iota of reason they will fire you. And it doesn't take much to find a reason to fire you, oh no, not at all. Or they will sit you, in a far off from home spot, over and over till you quit. Eitherway, they win.

b) In most cases, no lease, no drive with CRE. So go head, sue. Take them to court. Hope you have a good amount of $ because those cases get dragged out and you bet your ### CRE has plenty of lawyers and far more cash. Hence why I laugh everytime I see someone threaten legal action.

c) This is trucking, this is not lets all hold hands and sugar coat the truth. We are not going to say differently then we feel, most of us here feel you are making a big mistake. Which is now too late to fix. We are simply telling it like it is, and if that bothers you, don't get a CB. Ever.


That said, I hope you do make it out alive and with some property left to your name. Preferably still married. But you started trucking. And there are odds. And odds are you will wash out, for any number of reasons. You increased those odds by choosing a crappy company to start with.

Do you know why there are 100s of students in a class for an industry that lost TENS of THOUSANDS of jobs last year? Because over half, more like 99% will quit within 1 year, most will quit within 60 days. Because they were thickheaded, refused to listen, took everything personally, and didn't do enough research before choosing the LIFESTYLE of trucking.

You have perhaps increased your odds for success by choosing to team. But you have increased your odds for failure by teaming. It's a double edge sword. And it takes a special husband and wife to be able to team for a length of time, not every husband wife team makes it, and many end up separating over the experience. Nothing is quite as taxing teaming, added up with the normal stresses of trucking you've got a firestorm of stress, trapped in a tiny truck with another human being.

Always on time? You going to deliver on time when you have no hours left? When DOT pulls you in and does a through level 1 which takes an hour on a load you had 15 minutes leeway with? When icestorms hit you are going to be driving? You are going to put chains on in terrible weather? Traffic is backed up for miles, because some idiot locked it up with some other idiot and they hit a bridge and there was a fatality? When you are on that same load with 15 minutes leeway and the shipper isn't where the directions say?

You quote cute numbers, 3500 miles a week solo. Yeah. My ###. Maybe one week a month, especially right now. So you are expecting 6-7 k as a team? Again, I laugh at you. I certainly hope you did not plan your checks around that number.

Right now companies have tightened ship in hiring newbies. Its much harder to start, even with a perfect MVR and DAC. Most of the good companies won't even consider you before 6 months of experience. The ones that will treat you like crap, have strict idle policies that they expect you to bake in the heat and freeze in the winter. Whether you are a team or not makes no difference. They want the cream de la cream because they can. Because there are 1000s of drivers looking for the few remaining jobs there are.

You aren't going to win against CRE, you aren't teh first one thats tried you aren't the last one that will try. You aren't going to 'breech of contract' a #### thing. You will either bend over, and take it, or you will find another job, possibly another line of work.

So while I respect your trying, the fact is I hold little hope you will beat the odds with an attitude of 'I know it all'. Thats the attitude that winds up with you in the back of a DOT scale with a ticket you will never work off, in a ditch upside down, or in a lease with a failure of a company. At 22 cents a mile.

Split.

 

Couldn't have said it better myself .

 

Why is it all these newbies consider themselves a threat ? A team that admits willingness to run unsafe equipment and violate HOS isn't a threat to anybody . A decent carrier would terminate them in less than 30 days as soon as they did a monthly log audit or a truck was put OOS for obvious defects that would have been discovered with a proper pretrip . A newbie team with the blind leading the blind won't get hired by a decent company anyway , just another company that's as bad as CRE or worse .
Unlike IROCUBabe I can't say I respect your trying . You and the others like you were given good advice you chose to ignore .

 

ROFLMAO...... THat is funny as heck

 

God be with you because you will need him there.

 

My wife and I are looking to go into team driving as well and the thought of training together really appealed to us but I think we may have to find another way.
One thing I have to deal with is an old felony on my record and that plays a big factor in who we can go with. Central Refrigerated said, "sorry, have a nice day"
Swift has an option where I get trained first and then I can train my own wife but that seems pretty thin to me because I really won't have any experience at that time. Swift is reviewing my app but no word yet, #### felony.

We don't want to lease but because of my past and no experience our options are rather limited. Dare I ask, can a team make any money at all with the CR lease crap?

I should also mention that we are putting everything in storage while we train/drive.
So there will not be any house expenses during that time.

Karasu, what's the latest word?

 

Oh, BTW, after speaking with a CRE recruiter about 3 days ago, they are not hiring company drivers. Rather they do not have any company trucks available. I asked how long until there might be one, she did not know.
Correct answer is prolly when pigs fly.

Anyhow, the shortest term for lease is 6 months.

But, this all came from a recruiter, so who really knows what is truth or BS?

Ron

 

Like no company drivers never quit? Could they be taking company trucks and converting them to lease, or selling them off. This shifts the cost of trucks to L/Os.