N14 Celect tear down.
Discussion in 'Heavy Duty Diesel Truck Mechanics Forum' started by mile marker 27, Mar 3, 2024.
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Can you guys give me any advice on checking the oil pump after I remove it. Truck had good oil pressure but I feel I need to at least examine or replace it. If I replace it, is genuine Cummins the best? What about the oil temp thermostat?
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Turned 1, 3, 5, & 7 mains loose and rolled out the tops. Crank feels much better than the bearings look. Felt for any scratches with my fingernail and felt nothing. I suppose I got lucky. Moved on to the oil pump to get it removed and dang some of those bolt are hard to reach. How many actually hold the pump to the front cover?
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Sounds like you’re ok on the crank
What about fretting on the main caps where they bolt to the block. as far as the oil pump if it has good oil pressure just make sure the gears aren’t starting to flake or major scoring on the housing and put it back together definitely put new o rings on the plug outside of the pressure relief…they like to leak.. get them from Cummins or get???viton??? Ones…regular black ones from a o ring kit don’t like the heat I guess and get hard fast.
I hate cutting corners but I’ve seen to many people go broke fixing the what if’s that aren’t broken and don’t usually fail. The oil cooler I would either replace or flush due to possible crumbs waiting inside.Vampire, Last Call and mile marker 27 Thank this. -
Well, I’m sure this engine has been rebuilt 2-3 times prior to this and I wouldn’t bet a dollar, that it’s been off in the past. So, as you said, I’m gonna check the gears, end play and replace o rings and gaskets. Just quality assurance, I guess. I seen a video of a guy(Jpaydirt) checking the oil pump and deleting the oil temperature thermostat. Removed the thermostat and basically put a freeze plug in its place. His idea was, the thermostat is set at too high of temp to thin oil down and make it easier to pump but that also decreases oil pressure and breaks down oil quicker. I’m gonna take the cooler apart and at least flush it out.
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My buddy that works parts at Pete said $1600 for PAI and $2500 Cummins, on an in frame. Am
I getting better quality with the Cummins OE or paying for the name? With quality being #1, which would you choose?Vampire Thanks this. -
Cummins might be slightly better quality but I would say that’s debatable. I have seen parts from both fail and occasional problems with quality from both. The only pai failure I have had in a long time is a front crankshaft seal that was too small and literally came out of the timing cover when it got hot. I had a set of main bearing for a isx that appeared to have grit embedded in the bearing surface from Cummins. I would say Cummins is probably 99 percent buying a name. Pai definitely has a better warranty and from my experience will stand behind it.
you really need to check the mains for fretting before you order anything.Vampire and YardMule89 Thank this.
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