N14 or C15 or ??? for good power and MPG?

Discussion in 'Heavy Duty Diesel Truck Mechanics Forum' started by Turbrospeed, Apr 11, 2023.

  1. SmallPackage

    SmallPackage Road Train Member

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    2.9 rear gears arn't the best for concurring steep grades up or down. Very Slow hard working rough on the engine climb up and makes for a too fast hard on the brakes ride down. Even with a tune i don’t think that spec is dialed in for mountains. Flat land it is. May be cheaper to change rear gears up a quarter. Maybe something in the 3.08 to 3.25 range.
     
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  3. Turbrospeed

    Turbrospeed Light Load Member

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    Yea i was thinking 3.55 cause at 70mph am at 1280 rpms in 13th
     
  4. mile marker 27

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    Went down Mount Eagle several times, hauling these to Flordy. Drove some of my wife’s family’s trucks, instead of my own. Big mistake. The newer Macks suck for lugging power and transmission options. Oh, and no jakes on these either. Never been much of a fan of Mack engines, much smaller displacement than a cat or Cummins. Seems like they always had to be gear bound, to keep their power. I do like the looks of 1BA92898-17EF-4DC4-B9B2-E8EF6B818145.jpeg 8A0F5B23-2A9D-4B8F-8B38-92A8DCB7CC43.jpeg old Superliners and longer hood R’s.
     
  5. Big Road Skateboard

    Big Road Skateboard Road Train Member

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    I know you mentioned the oil in the other thread possibly causing your tick. What RPM are you driving this engine at? I mean, going down the road flat @ 70. Are you running in high gear?

    Your truck was surely specd for a direct drive. Somebody dropped in a 13od
     
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  6. Turbrospeed

    Turbrospeed Light Load Member

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    Yea before i didnt know much about trucks so i didnt know i had 2.9 rears and the mechanic who did my inframe said lets put a 13spd cause before i had a 10spd without o/d....with low pro tires at 65mph i was at 1600rpms in 10th gear .... Now at 70 am at 1280 in 13th but lately i been trying to cruise 65-66 in 12 gear and its at 1400 there .... Truck will pull better when the engine is at 1400+ ....Also seeing better mpgs

    I got only 3600 miles on this oil change before doing that noise lol .... When i checked the oil yesterday.... drips like little water drops every second.
     
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  7. Big Road Skateboard

    Big Road Skateboard Road Train Member

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    2 things

    1. You're driving that truck all wrong. Keep those RPM's up. You need to really keep it in that 16-1700 range. Drop a gear and roll.

    2. You admittedly don't have much experience. So maybe you haven't seen hot oil too much. Any decent quality oil is not gonna be a problem. Your engine may use more oil with one versus another, but they are not causing engine noise.

    Possibly your oil is being contaminated with fuel. Does your oil level rise?
     
  8. Rideandrepair

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    Put a drop of oil onto a paper towel. You’ll see the fuel separate right away. It’ll fan out around the oil.
     
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  9. Crude Truckin'

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    If it isn’t broke, and still reliable, save your money. Get a set of jakes installed and roll. Me and many other folks have rolled to the west coast with a Series 60 and a direct 10.
     
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  10. Turbrospeed

    Turbrospeed Light Load Member

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    Just checked the oil now after 6hrs with the engine off....it is right at the Full....turned on the truck and no noise

    However forgot to mention that sometimes on my scan gauge i see the temps go way low and back up....I need to check the wire going to the sensor, that might be the problem.

    And yes dont have much exp with diesal engines but am here to learn

    1600-1700 seems pretty high, i would have to ride in 11 gear...engine seems pretty happy around 1400-1500
     
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  11. singlescrewshaker

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    Got yourself a triple digit hammer of truck now!! Lol

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    Seems to me the mechanic put in the wrong 13sp for the rears you got.?

    Can only guess from the speeds/rpm you mentioned you have something like a 16913A transmission?
    11th being 1:1
    12th .86:1
    13th .73:1
    That's too deep of an overdrive for 2.93 rears, & the truck probably has start ability issues in 1st, possibly making you use the low hole to lift off.?

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    You'd be better off with an RTO 15613. That's basically a direct drive 9sp with a overdrive back box. You end up with 13th being .87:1 for your final ratio. Gives you perfect rpm for a Detroit running 65-70mph in 12th, 1:1. And good rpm for 70mph + in 13th, .87:1..

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