Need advice on first driving job

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by TacomaJoe860, Mar 28, 2022.

  1. TacomaJoe860

    TacomaJoe860 Bobtail Member

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    This is going to be long-winded, and I'm sure there will be some heavy sarcasm thrown my way, but this forum has been a wealth of knowledge from experienced drivers, so here goes nothing:

    I received my Class A November of last year, and I was lined up with a driving job through a friend. The company in question paid for the tuition cost of the school, and I was not legally bound to repaying, so naturally it sounded like a good deal. The plan was this: I get my license, travel to the fleet's hub, and then my friend and I would go over-road for a bit and he would train me. I was originally told that I would receive percentage pay, then it turned to CPM, then it turned out he'd be paying me a flat-rate weekly under the table during the training. My buddy sort of steered me away from asking the owner of the fleet (it's a small family-owned type of deal) any specific questions about the job, about the pay, etc., and naturally I went along with it for the first month or two since him and I go back a ways. Fast forward to now: it's going on three months that I have been perpetually 'training' with my buddy, and I still have no real answers about what to expect when I'm done (and I feel three months is too #### long to be training...by all accounts...). My buddy always talks about the training in terms of being n 'owner-op,' and I have stressed to him that I am not interested in being an owner-op: I simply want to get experience here for a bit as an OTR guy, and hopefully transfer that to a regional job so I can be home more to spend time with my girlfriend and family. It seems my buddy always has one reason or another why he needs to continue 'training' me, and even went so far as to tell me today that he 'hopes one of my trailer tires blows on me so he can see how I handle the situation,' as opposed to just servicing and replacing the tires that are now in serious disrepair? The fleet in question is also taking me on as a 1099 employee, per the contracts I signed (and yes, I gave them a thorough read-through). Idk. Overall, it just feels like something is off about the whole situation. I have talked to other drivers I know that are experienced, and they say that A) the 1099 as a 'company' guy is ########, and the potential .65 CPM is going to be way less after taxes and all the #### I have to account for, and B) that the training period is WAY too long at this point, and that something might be up with it...? Naturally, as a total newcomer to the industry, I have no idea what is or is not a scam of a deal in this area, but I know I have run everything I possibly could for training experience: heavy time in all 48, NYC and other big city work, hitting lots of docks for pickups and deliveries, we run the rockies a LOT, and since the jake in his truck is non-existent I've even learned how to walk a fully-loaded semi down a steep grade with just the brakes and gear control. Idk how much more ready I CAN be for going solo tbh...my though: he is milking my being there for these team bills so he can do half the work and make most of the money, and there's gotta be some reason why I've been so heavily steered away from actually making contact with the owner and inquiring about #### myself. Thoughts? Input?
     
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  3. ibcalm19

    ibcalm19 Road Train Member

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    Not sarcasm your buddy isn't a real buddy. I definitely wouldn't use the word friend to describe him. The whole situation is a "use you" deal. Plain & simple time to move on apply to the jobs that you want. I do not recommend telling your "buddy" anything about your plans. All the best to you.
     
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  4. Geekonthestreet

    Geekonthestreet Medium Load Member

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    Man I have a Walmart slave labor story about why I never work with friends. At the darkest point in my life I had to take a job as a Walmart grocery DC order filler. AKA literal wage slave. They made us work so fast it was almost impossible to avoid injury forever. Every day I’d go live in the freezing ### cold stacking boxes from before sunup until after sundown at such speeds where I had to concentrate hard on the HUMILIATING art of brick layering yogurt and cottage cheese. It wore me down mind body and soul and it was all I could do to just survive until I could get a higher paying job.

    Here comes my twin brother. I told him “hey you should come work for Walmart. The pay and schedule are phenomenal. Just don’t sign up to order fill. I know it pays more but it’s a #### job” And he told me he’d never work for a company like Walmart. His “good friend” of idk 5 years started working too much OT at a lower paying warehouse during COVID. He started bragging about pay and told my brother he NEEDED to apply. “We don’t have any forklift positions but you should sign on as a picker and just get promoted” My ####### brother took that job for 2/3 the pay of a Walmart orderfiller. Worse benefits and schedule. Mandatory OT. I told him “don’t do it you’ll burn out”. He didn’t listen.

    He was jobless six months later.
     
  5. bryan21384

    bryan21384 Road Train Member

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    Short answer: yes. You've had such thorough training, it's OK if you move somewhere else. When you do move to another company, check all your boxes to make sure you don't end owing any money for schooling. Also, I wouldn't advise taking any type of 1099 gig unless it's necessary(bad record, driving or criminal). Rarely does the driver win in those instances. You're right, 65 cpm on a 1099 isn't the same as a W2 version. You'll end up in deep poo running on 1099.
     
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  6. lual

    lual Road Train Member

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    To the original poster--you'll get a lot more help here....if you tell us what city, state you live in (or near)....and also what kind(s) of trucking you think you'd like to try (e.g., flatbed, tanker, etc).

    --Lual
     
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  7. Lumper Humper

    Lumper Humper Road Train Member

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    I second this 100%.
     
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  8. TripleSix

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    Yep. He’s being porked by a “friend.” Running team and paying trainee pay. With no end in sight. Using him as a side piece.

    Shameful behavior. Question is, what is he going to do about it?
     
  9. roundhouse

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    Get copies of your logbooks or bills of lading or something to prove your experience , a lot of companies won’t admit you’ve worked there because they are angry that you left , so you will have to be prepared to prove it without their help,
    My neighbor keeps copies of every single bill of lading and scale ticket and fuel bill, from the company he works for, in case he ever needs to prove he has the experience he claims to have .

    and as soon as @Chinatown arrives to this thread he can offer some good advice .

    first thing you need to post is the general area you live .
    Whether you want OTR or local or whatever
    What’s your criminal record, if any ?
    Ddetails of your driving history , accidents , tickets etc , what for and when .

    endorsements on your CDL
    Every endorsement you don’t have is a door that’s not gonna be open to you.
    So work on getting them all if you don’t have them already .

    Get doubles triples tanker and haz mat .

    Sounds like your “friend “ is just using you

    but find a new job before you quit the old one ,
    And I Probabaly wouldn’t give a two week notice , that just gives them time to post something bad about you on the DAC ,

    tell them you need a week or two weeks off to travel with your family on vacation or something ,
    Start the new job , and make sure it is gonna work out , then call the owner of the company and thank them for the opportunity and tell them you found another job paying a lot more than whatever you were getting paid on this one , and mention that if you’d have gotten a raise and your own truck to drive you might have stayed around longer .
    Or just tell them trucking isn’t for you and you’re going another direction .
     
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  10. smokey12

    smokey12 Road Train Member

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    Man I wouldn't call that a "Buddy". He is using you. Get outta there ASAP. Go to a reputable company, stay away from 1099. Tell them up front what you have gone through so far and your experience. With your experience you will have no problem passing a road test and going solo, at least soon As stated above, you might want to mention the area you live and what you want to to do so people here can steer you in the right direction..
     
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  11. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    Yep, time to call it quits with that company.
    Where is your location; nearest city/town.
    We'll help you find a new job local or regional if that's what you prefer.
     
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