Can I get my first year of experience by teaming up with an O/O and letting him pay me a company rate. I figure that will give him a pretty big boost in his check and still allow me to get the time I need under my belt. Don't really want to go to truck school and I'm certainly not signing a year long contract with a company so they can train me.
Need experience to go with new CDL
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Plant City Rookie, Aug 31, 2011.
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There's plans in the works to require classroom learning to obtain your CDL. Uncle Buck teaching you to drive won't work anymore.
Regarding learning with an O/O instead of becoming a company driver? I've heard of it being done, but the vast majority will say no. Why? Insurance on a guy with no experience would be outrageous.
If you get your education on your own, you should be able to sign on with a company and not have to sign any one year contract. -
Do you expect a different answer in this thread than you got in this thread:
http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tr...s/153980-experienced-class-b-looking-o-o.html
Or the answers you found in someone else's thread here:
http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tr...ers/151196-no-experience-just-got-my-cdl.html
Do a search, there are dozens of new drivers that thought they could shortcut the process. -
Thanks Big John. Not expecting a different answer, just hoping to actually get an answer. I didn't realize there was such a long delay between posting something and it actually appearing on the board. I tried to send you a private message based on your knowledge from the other post. I've seen O/O teams making 54CPM and figured there might be someone willing to make a deal. I understand all that you've said about wear and tear and certainly understand the issue of trust and not sleeping while a rookie drives your expensive rig. I believe that issue would not last long though as I am sure with training/experience I would prove myself. Regardless, I think it is probably best to get trained from someone who actually knows how to train, not just how to drive.
Thanks again.BigJohn54 Thanks this. -
Yeah, I would research that a little more. You are going to really screw yourself! If you plan on working with that O/O the rest of your life then I say go for it. Otherwise, no one will ever hire you. It's not just the companies policy either its the insurance. You will end up going through all this and if you want to change from driving with this one particular O/O you will have to go through an accredited school and then do your time with a trainer.
The only other way around this is if you buy your own truck, of which they probably won't insure you. Insurance aside, you will really be screwing yourself then.
Do yourself a huge favor and do things correctly the first time. Trust me, it will end up saving you so much time and money in the long run. -
Thanks chompi. BTW, the team pay mentioned above was company. I have seen long haul O/O team pay well over $1/mile.
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That's all well and great, but no O/O is going to pay you that as a newbie. You will be lucky if they don't charge you for training.
O/O's can make over $2 a mile just depends on the load and where its going.
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Around here, CDL state run schools are fairly dirt cheap ($2400) and there are grants available.
You can't short cut this training if you ever want to do anything with your CDL.
I can't imagine an O/O willing to even take you out due to the outragous insurance costs.
Also the fact that you would need to be enrolled in his/her Drug & Alcohol testing program and
need a pre-employment screen if your even gonna drive his rig.
It's simply too much and too much of a risk...Gears Thanks this. -
Right, that was my point. If he's pulling in $2 per mile and paying me 30-35 CPM, the extra $1.70 PM I drive should cover any additional costs. Even at 120,000 that's over $200K. Let's say the O/O has to pay $3K/mth too insure me. If he wants to offer me hlth insurance, let's add another $15K (high). Then, let's say he spends $1K per mth on maintenance and I add 20% to that. That all totals about $55K. If he pays me 35 CPM that comes out to $42K for the same 120K miles.
All in all, I get a decent paycheck for my first year while learning from an experienced O/O who is truly invested in my success (i.e. teaching me how to take care of a truck and work hard/fast); the O/O gets WELL over $100K extra that year. Even if the pay is $1.50/mile and he pays me 35 CPM AND I only drive 100K miles it still work out to an extra $73K/yr.
Mathematically it works out well for everyone. I do understand the risks involved on both sides however. If I break his truck he loses more than that and if he changes his mind and fires me I lose everything too. Some people like a little calculated risk. Others just like to play it safe. I understand both sides.
Again, I know virtually nothing about this industry. However, I do understand that miles=money and your rig is your paycheck. -
I already have the preemplyment screening because I am a school bus driver. Fed prints, urinalysis, med card and all that. If there is anything else needed then I foot the bill. Again, just an idea. It already seems clear to me that even if there was a risk of profit most O/Os would not take the chance. Best option for me...truck school.
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