need explanation regarding inverter watts

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  1. Coolbreezin

    Coolbreezin Medium Load Member

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    Hello. My friend wants to mount a 5000btu window unit in his truck. He has four 950cca batteries producing 45,600 total watts, 3800 Wh and 315 Aph. The a/c unit only needs around 500 watts to run. We'll double that for initial start up. This a/c unit is powered from a 3500 watt inverter. When the a/c kicks on, it drains the batteries to the point that his voltmeter drops below 11 for a bit.
    Any explanation is greatly appreciated as Im very curious also. Thank you.
     
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  3. NH Guy

    NH Guy Medium Load Member

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    The batteries dont produce anything, just store it. The alternator is what is making the electricity. What is that rated at?
     
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  4. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    500 watts of 120 volt AC power requires a constant draw of about 40 amps at 12.6 volts from the truck's batteries. That's a heavy draw for a group of 4 batteries.
     
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  5. Coolbreezin

    Coolbreezin Medium Load Member

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    I believe it was just over a 100 amps. I didnt really look at it for info when we r&r the unit. What amperage do you believe he would need to run that a/c unit?

    I spoke to him. He says it a 160 amp (LN110 555JHO). The wires looked pretty old, so maybe OEM? Is 160amp enough, if so could it the wires are to small or degraded over time?
     
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  6. Coolbreezin

    Coolbreezin Medium Load Member

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    Most common voltage ratings for AC units are 115, 125 and 220 volts, and amperage rating can run from 15 to 20 amps. He's producing 315 Aph. This unit is used while driving.
     
  7. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    Watts is power and is derrived from multiplying amps and voltage. Typical AC voltage in a house is around 120 volts. A truck with a 12 volt DC system will require (give or take) 10x the amperage to equal the equivillent wattage in 120 volt AC.

    If your AC unit draws 15 amps at 120 volts AC, you'll need to supply approximately 150 amps DC from the truck's electrical system. (If the truck is running and producing 14 volts, obviously amperage draw from the truck will be slightly less. I just picked 120 VAC and 12 VDC for easier math).

    The amp hour rating on a battery means how many amps the battery can produce for 1 hour while retaining enough juice to still (in theory) start the vehicle.

    With the battery ratings you listed and a 150 amp constant draw to power the AC you'd be in danger of not being able to start the truck after about 90 minutes. Have to remember too that power draw (watts) is typically constant. As battery voltage begins to drop, the appliance will start trying to pull more amperage to stay running. Amps = heat.
     
  8. Coolbreezin

    Coolbreezin Medium Load Member

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    A simple "thank you" isnt enough to honestly show my appreciation for your reply & lengthy explanation. Now Im a little smarter because of everyone's input. So...besides spend $2000 on another a/c fix, what do you recommend he do?
     
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  9. MacLean

    MacLean Road Train Member

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    I’d go get a generator and strap it to the catwalk to run it. Much simpler.
     
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  10. The Crossword Trucker

    The Crossword Trucker Road Train Member

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    There is no cheap way to get AC in a truck
    APU or WTAPU (/white trash APU) which is a mini split and a honda genny.
    You could go with a massive Lithium Iron Phosphate battery bank and a mini split but the smartest guys on this board are still arguing out the details of that one so I doubt your buddy is ready for that.

    Just fix the AC
     
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  11. Lazer

    Lazer Road Train Member

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    Just fix the HVAC. Why try to reinvent the wheel?
     
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