Need Help Again

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Velli, Feb 28, 2017.

  1. Velli

    Velli Light Load Member

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    Hey guys I would first like to thank you all for the the advice in my straight line backing thread. It really helped alot and I got it eventually lol. Now today we started offset and I have never felt so bad in my life. I hate feeling like a ####### and that's exactly what I felt like today. I just couldn't get it no matter how the instructor explained it to me, I became frustrated and just checked out mentally after awhile. My confidence is so low right now, at least when I was struggling with straight back I knew I would get it eventually and I knew what I was doing wrong. With offset idk whats going on, the trainer tells me to do one thing sometimes then he'll tell me to do something else others. On top of that Ive been watching the guys who are good at it offset and they do it completely different from what the instructor tells me and the cdl refresher guys who already have experience kept telling me different techniques and it all just confused me and overwhelmed me. I was so close to walking off the course today. I need some offset tips in the simplest form. I do everything perfectly until the last step. Once you have your trailer centered diagonally towards the offset target and you back up and have the center cone in onemirror & the outer cone in the other mirror, do you turn towards or away from the center cone? No matter which direction I turned it just would never line up for me
     
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  3. TheRipper

    TheRipper Medium Load Member

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    Hard to understand what you're being taught exactly.

    My only advice is watch or envision the back of the trailer (where its pointing) and make the smallest adjustments you can once you have it on line.

    My school taught us to watch for the glad hands and then get back under it. But it's much simpler once you start watching the back of the trailer.

    Hope this kind of helps
     
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  4. againstthewind

    againstthewind Road Train Member

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    depending on where your tandems are, how much tailswing you have and how much room is in the parkn lot you wont always be backing up the same way. at least i dont, i back up for what the situatiin calls for, ive seen too many trucks back into the truck next to them because they were doing it the same as they would if they didnt have much room, the point is to use what space is available and not hit anything. there are so many different situations that will b different from what u learn in school. i see alot of trainers out here with there trainee backing up a truck and they seem to make everything harder. so as far as advice just do the best you can. i got my cdl in 96 and there are still those days when i prob look like the idiot of the place but they are usually the tightest places, and ive never seen one driver back it in some of those places like it was easy
     
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  5. Velli

    Velli Light Load Member

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    I can Back straight that is not the problem and I know it's hard to help me without any visual reference for what Im referencing. Ill try my best to explain where Im having trouble. As you know with offset training, there's 3 rows of cones which creates 2 lanes. Let's just say Im starting in the left lane and would like to offset into the right lane. I pull up straight from the left lane and make a complete stop. From there I make begin backing and angling my trailer in a straight line diagonal towards the right lane(no problem) After this is when my struggles begin. To back straight into the right lane from this point am I supposed to turn towards the center cone? Also how do I know when to start my turn?
     
  6. TheRipper

    TheRipper Medium Load Member

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    Ok, I think I understand better.

    So once you are pointed into the right lane, push the trailer back straight and then start angling toward the center cone between the two lanes.

    It just takes practice and feel. You'll get it. Just don't start angling to soon or you'll be too tight on the center cone.

    Does that help at all?
     
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  7. againstthewind

    againstthewind Road Train Member

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    have u checked out any utube videos?
     
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  8. TROOPER to TRUCKER

    TROOPER to TRUCKER Anything Is Possible

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    Give the trailer time to work and don't over steer while doing that.
     
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  9. Velli

    Velli Light Load Member

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    Yes now we're on the right track. Ok when is a good indication of when to turn? Also im pointed to the right lane at this point, I straight back and turn. Do I turn towards the center cone or away from the center cone? Some guys turn towards the center cone while others make a hard turn towards away from the center cone then back towards it before turning.
     
  10. 1278PA

    1278PA Road Train Member

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    I'm not a driver yet so take what i say as worth less then 2 cents...lol anyway

    For me my opinion is backing is a feel people telling you to do this and do that is good for the overall gist of it but the majority is the feel and knowing the mechanics of how the tractor and trailer move.

    I'm the type of person that learns by doing not by listening but that's my opinion.
     
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  11. TheRipper

    TheRipper Medium Load Member

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    Man, you're giving my brain a workout...haha

    But so try to envision what you want the trailer to do, and work on making it happen...but my opinion is once you are pointed at the lane, just push it back straight until you have some space to clear the center cone, and then start angling the trailer towards the center cone. Sorry it's tough to explain it like this. Just, honestly, keep practicing and getting a feel for the trailer.

    Like others said, don't oversteer it. Small corrections will work. Biggest mistake you see out here is oversteer.
     
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