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Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Six9GS, Dec 5, 2012.

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  1. Dec 5, 2012 #11
    Dinomite

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    No pre trip or post trip. Somebody bury them under the scale. :)
     
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  3. Dec 5, 2012 #12
    pokerhound67

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    the split logging is very rarely of any value at all. if ur stuck at a receiver for a length of time and already have another load to pick up is about the only time ive used it. split logging USED to be a valuable tool...before they messed with it and it changed to require one of the two breaks be 8 hours...usually if you are waiting 8 hours 2 more makes very little difference. and a 2 hour break really isnt enough to take a good nap. thanks again fmsca for making the roads a little less safe.
     
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  4. Dec 5, 2012 #13
    Six9GS

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    Yea, the rule does seem to not offer too much of an advantage in most situations. If a driver has the minimum 8 hours in a sleeper, if they extend the off-duty time 2 more hours and then they begin the whole 14 hour cycle over, instead of finishing off a couple of on-duty hours and then having to take the 10 hour rest break.

    Anyway, I 'think' I at least have a grasp of it now. btw, the new rules about the 34 hour reset that take effect in July, well basically suck. You can't use a reset period more frequently than a week. 168 hours (7 days) must pass from the time the last reset began before you can begin another reset. That's kinda stupid I think.

    Also, a reset MUST include two consecutive time spans of 1AM to 5AM. So, if you started your reset at 2AM it would basically waste a whole day before any of it counted. Also, if you are a night driver, it seems it will really reduce your drive time capabilities. IDK.

    The other rule kind of makes sense, it is basically that you can't drive longer than 8 continous hours without a minimum 30 minute off-duty rest period. That rule seems to work within the other current rules without much interference and I think most can easily see the potential safety benefit from it. I already have that rule where I work! I have a 'flex' schedule, which means my arrival and departure and meal times are not set, but can be flexible (as long as I work an 8 hour day total). However, one hard fast, set rule is that you must take at least a 30 minute meal break during an 8 hour shift, and it can not be at the beginning or end of the 8 hour period.

    Anyway, I get to learn a whole bunch of new acronyms!!! Oh boy, what fun!!!!

    Thanks All!!!
     
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  5. Dec 5, 2012 #14
    Pmracing

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    So if you started your day and only drove two hours to the shipper. Then sat 8.5 while loading, that would be a good use? Assuming the shipper would not let you stay the remainder of your ten...

    Best would be if you could drop the trailer in a dock, sleep undisturbed and then pick it up in the yard after a ten hour rest. But that is usually dreaming...

    Mikeeee
     
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  7. Dec 6, 2012 #15
    25(2)+2

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    I use the split break whenever it helps me, sometimes driving to a destination, spending 8 in the sleeper before delivering, so I can get these multiple drops unloaded, and still be legal.

    I don't like spending more time sitting than necessary, and long waits can usually replace the 2 hour to less than 8 or sometimes even the 8 up to less than 10, and if the drive back, or to the next destination, added to the driving time and on duty time before the break doesn't exceed the limits, you just spent less time on the road. Being on the road makes you nothing unless the wheels are turning, or you are making a paid drop, or other paid duties.


    I have even had the occasion to take 2 sleeper periods of 8 hours with little to maybe 5 hours driving in between, another thing, many of our receivers don't take deliveries on weekends and any tool used to make the delivery in a timely manner, and before the product gets too old is a big plus.

    I also pick up at night, and sometimes driving out before the fog or storm or whatever is going to be the problem doesn't get you past all of that, but at least you drive in better conditions on the way out.

    Flexibility is what it's used for, and anyone doing a diverse job can use all of that they can get.
     
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  8. Dec 6, 2012 #16
    dibstr

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    Actually the answer is almost too simple to relate. The 8 hr period does not count against the 14 hrs (The two hr period does though). After the 2 hr period you would recalculate the 14 hrs from the end of the 8 hr period (the first of the two periods) (Example was 2am) which would then be 4pm (2am-4pm=14 hr).

    Best regards
     
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