Need help. What to do with this load?

If you're going to blacklist this broker, you might as well get paid what you're owed in the process.

I just had a rate con this morning on a real sweet load. But in the description said "first three hours free, then $30 per hour detention"

I emailed back, "looks good, but detention is a dollar per minute after two hours. Let me know if this is a problem. I'll get on the road when I get the updated rate con."

He called me. "Yes, this is a huge problem. We run this load all the time, and every carrier is fine with it."

I said, "Okay."

He said, "Okay, so we're good?" He sounded relieved.

I said, "No. Take me off the load." Then I hung up the phone. It sucked to lose the load, but I'm happy to make a stupid decision on principle.

I say stick to your guns. They can't just #### every carrier without consequences.

 

Imagine the Contract the same Broker has to sign with a Mega. They take plenty of Broker Loads too. The one I worked for Proudly told Us 50% of their Freight was same day Brokered Freight. That explained their 99% on time rate. Funny thing is I’m often pressed for time, yet I beat their on time rate. Ha ha!! Last laugh on them.

 

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I hate when they do that with the detention. That's pretty funny though, that broker probably fell off his chair when you hung up.

I have to sit down and think about this and I have a transportation attorney to talk to tomorrow.

My whole problem with this isn't that they won't pay the dollar value that I want, it's that they absolutely positively refuse to put any dollar amount on a new rate con.

They are not even trying to negotiate with me. They are just acting like hey man just deliver it it's okay we'll take care of you. Yeah, right.

It would certainly be easier for me just to deliver this and get it over with, but not only are these guys unprofessional shysters, not only are they trying to force me to do something that is not the business practice in this business, they're trying to force me to do something that I feel like an idiot doing because I know it is wrong.

I just have never heard of a broker in this kind of a situation that would not say hey you know what I can't give you that but I'll give you this how about if we do that let's try to figure this out so we can get the load delivered.

I don't know what the law actually would say about it but I don't see how you can have a transaction if you do not have a dollar value for your service.

That is not a transaction, that is a favor.

 

I know you haven’t mentioned Dollar amounts. But I can say, when something similar would happen to Me with the steady Shipper I had for 10 yrs. They gladly paid Me $250 Layover pay. Usually just one day. That’s probably half or less than I should charge, but they worked a lot with Me, it went both ways. This Broker should have offered You 2 days Layover at minimum. Hard to expect 48 hrs detention at $30 or $50 or $100. Just not realistic. A Dirty rotten Broker will set you up, knowing the real details of the load, just to get it, dealing with the poor Trucker later. If you deliver tomorrow, the Broker probably rightfully owes you $1500. I doubt you’ll get it. He plays dumb, says it’s an honest mistake, and you had every right and chance to call Consignee and verify appointment, before Loading it. Don’t know myself how it would go down Legally, or any Recourse you have at this point. Going to have to make a deal, cut any Losses, and move on. Or set up on a corner and sell the Load. Lol.

 

Well this is the whole thing of it. Nowhere in any of the communications have they said you're asking for too much money we can't pay that.

To be honest only once on the telephone did he say I don't know if they'll pay the redelivery fee which is the same fee as the original delivery, I think that's fair. He only mentioned that very briefly and then went into other things. It certainly was not the focal point of that conversation to negotiate.

Now perhaps somewhere in my next email to them I should say something about negotiation, but I've already told them multiple times that the rate must be negotiated.

And also to be fair in my email on Sunday I did tell them it was not negotiable. Although again, I have told them multiple times it must be a negotiated rate.

But I find it hard to believe that this company just wants me to go blindly deliver it with no dollar value on the rate con, they have the balls to say that to me but they don't have the balls to say hey how about if we pay you this amount instead of that.

This is not about that they want to pay me less than what I am stating, this is about they don't want to pay me anything and they expect me to redeliver this load without having a dollar value on the rate con.

 

You know, all this email and texting just don’t get it, like a good firm voiced statement does. Much easier, especially with the younger generation to blow off an e-mail.

 

Paper trail helps though.

 

Yes this is what I have been doing. I have been establishing a paper trail.

I have repeatedly said I am attempting to solve this situation, I have fulfilled all of the terms of the original rate con, I have been in constant contact with you, I am ready willing and able to make the delivery, but I cannot make it unless I have a rate Con in writing.

So in short, I have reiterated to them that I am absolutely willing to work with them and make the delivery, but in order for me to have a business transaction with them, I must have a dollar value for my service. That is what a business transaction is.

And of course I let them know this happened twice before and those Brokers worked with me and they gave me a new rate con with all the fees on it totaled before I did the delivery. This is the standard way of doing business in this business.

And of course I have the paper trail of all of the emails that I have contacted them and the day of the delivery and who I spoke with etcetera etcetera.

I am doing my best to portray the truth if any authorities read this. I've done everything I'm supposed to do I'm ready willing and able to take care of this but they are being unreasonable.

 

I have done both, gave up and delivered on brokers terms and also went back home untill they paid me redelivery fee. The second time I had another trailer available and the loaded trailer with the seal could sit at my yard without causing me to lose any revenue.
An O/O with one truck and one trailer is on the losing side in this kind of situation, just because you will lose way more money sitting doing nothing while the problem is getting resolved.

 

I had a load that was to del. at 3 AM on the top side of ATL. drove on out and when I had all/ready untapped. head man came by in his red reflector covered golf cart to say that unload # had been used at 1AM and I could wait till someone was late and he would unload me, 5 am. came and went and they stoped unloading and loading trailers going out at 6am. so so I had the night super/visor sign my bills that I was on time for my unloading appt.# and they were unable to unload truck because of some unknown code to me at that time, and I tried to beat traffic around I-285 to P/U my old 44FT raven alum. flat and make it to my loading appt. at our direct shipper and went right back to Dallas/Ftworth got unloaded and loaded same load that I had sitting on my other trailer? my agent did a lot of phone work to get my re/del. money from broker turns out one of our other trucks used my unloading # to get done a day early so he could be it court for a family defects case? But they got 325$ for the re/del. but it was a lot of driving to get there early and drop the loaded old spare trailer and go home and be back with the other trailer to get both unloaded the same night, I slipped them a 20$ to lift the short trailer with 2 of their big forklifts and deck it on my 48ft combo. flat, I went to prestress plant in my home/town and got them undecked, But the office people spent a lot of time on phone working this mess out after they called and said not to ansur. any calls from broker so I knew they were working hard on getting my $ for re/del. charges?