I used to listen to him years ago. I remember one time he said the average rate for dry van is 1.40 when leased on. Don't know if there is some truth in that. But I do know its not that far off for dry van.
A lot of Landstar drivers talk gross because that's how the load board is setup. The loadboard is set up that way because not everybody makes the same percentage. Have your own van trailer and you're at 72%, flatbed 73%, every axle over 5, 1% for each one. Then you have old timers that have different contracts like 75% of 98%, 80% for the really old timers who were Inway and ranger before Landstar was created, etc. When I talk on this board or in general with non LS drivers, I talk about money after the cut. I'm mathematically inclined. We all know that a lot of owner operators aren't, otherwise there would be less of them when a lot of them realize they could make more as a company driver.
Really going points on how everyone is set up different. It's just hard for those of us that are gathering information regarding how rates are doing over there. Oh well, have my webinar this afternoon so we'll see how that looks.
Let use know how the load board looks, maybe it's better now. There are so many point of views on what is cheap freight and how to make money. You can get a glider kit truck, they are cheaper and way more easy to fix. Then you can't go to CA. Their is no one answer. That guy with the radio show KR, I'm not sure he has the correct answer.
EPA is going after gliders, so that's a slippery slope too. It's tough out here man. Odds are so stacked against oo's..
[QUOTE= $134,000 a year. Eventually I'd like to go back OTR flatbed, been doing containers for the last 2 years (did OTR flatbed the 2 years previous)...these numbers tell me to stay in Chicago doing containers.....did 135K gross last year with 6 weeks off (2weeks of breakdowns, 2 weeks ill, 2 weeks vacations) and slept in the truck 12 nights!!!!!.... Rates are certainly low this year across the board (Containers, flatbed, dry van, reefer, tanker...) but, fact is, if I can't gross 5K or more per week consistently, I don't see a need to go OTR.... Thanks!!!....this thread has been quite informative!!!!