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Paintedblack · Feb 21, 2013

hey chompi, whats the process like if you get a bad trainer and want to switch? Do you just call them from your cell phone and tell them, and then they redirect the driver back to the terminal, or what?

airforcetoo · Feb 21, 2013

Paintedblack said: ↑

hey chompi, whats the process like if you get a bad trainer and want to switch? Do you just call them from your cell phone and tell them, and then they redirect the driver back to the terminal, or what?
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If its something serious like; trainer doesn't shower, unsafe driver, urinates in the truck etc etc there shouldnt be a problem. If you just don't like ure trainer then u might be SOL sir.

Paintedblack · Feb 21, 2013

What if he has a ###### attitude and treats you badly and isnt giving you the proper chance to train yourself. I read a post recently where the trainer was trying to borrow money and all kinds of stuff. Sure thats not as serious as pissing in a truck, but who wants to be with a trainer that has a crappy negative attitude or treats u like crap because you refuse to loan them money?

chompi · Feb 22, 2013

"hey chompi, whats the process like if you get a bad trainer and want to switch? Do you just call them from your cell phone and tell them, and then they redirect the driver back to the terminal, or what?"

Yes, just call dispatch or safety and let them know what's going on and they will get you a different trainer. Happens all the time, so its not a real big deal.

Central helped us get a settlement from Volvo due to constant breakdowns in two brand new trucks.

Tusk · Mar 25, 2013

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Don't believe what the recruiter tells you when it comes to average pay or average miles. There J-O-B is to tell you anything and everything to get you in the door, and after that, it's on to the next fish. It's a like a military recruiter, but with even less incentive to be completely honest.

If you're a rookie and you are going with a starter company, depending on the company you'll be making between 25cpm - 32cpm. If you're going OTR, which I assume you are, you will be averaging 2000-2500 miles a week. Depending on how hard/easy you want to run, and the shape of the economy, you could be making under or over those numbers and that can vary from week to week. Most one-year drivers that I have talked to are pulling in about 400-500 bucks a week after taxes. Keep in mind that this number would be higher, but alot of rookie drivers are having to deduct around 50-75$ a week to pay back tuition loans, lock fee's, etc.

I'll be honest with you David, whether I had the money up-front or not, I would stay away from Driver's Solutions period. Myself, along with dozens of other users, have spent countless months researching all of the starter-companies and comparing them, and it's no coincidence most of the companies in the Driver's Solution network are the worst of the worst. Driver's Solutions is a middle-man that simply makes their profit by connecting you to a designated trucking company (usually PAM or USA). Driver Solution's training is less-than-average, and they have no motivation to improve it since you'll just be sold off to a company that doesn't care about the quality of it's drivers. That company will then run you like ####, pay you like ####, and treat you like ####. And does the trucking company have any motivation to change their ways either? Nope, because they know you'll either quit or get fired within your first 6 months or first year anyway, and hopefully be smart enough to move on to a better company.

David, your best bet is to CUT OUT the middle man, and choose your own company. Don't fall for the Driver's Solution theory, because in reality its just a highly-polished scam. It's goal is to take advantage of people that are financially unable to pay for private training, and that's exactly what it does. Take the advice of many, many people on this forum, and don't waste your time or energy with that company.

Whether you have money for school or not, there are way better choices than Drivers Solution. You'll have WAY more options! Do you know how many companies there are out there that will hire you NOW? And did you know most of these companies will TRAIN you better, PAY you better, and TREAT you better than any of the companies connected to Driver's Solution?

Check out some of these companies: Millis Transfer, Central Refridgerated, Roehl, Prime. All of these companies will train you for almost no up-front costs, including free housing and free meals. They will even pay your bus ticket to come out there. These are decent companies to finish your first year on the road, and when you move to a better company you will be more respected than someone coming from Driver's Solution. None of those companies I just mentioned are perfect, and there will be just as many bad weeks as good weeks. You'll have a terrible dispatcher one week, and a really fantastic one the next. No, you aren't going to be in a 2013 Full-Condo Peterbilt, but you will be in a #### good and fairly new truck. No you aren't going to be making 40cpm, but you will be making 31-34cpm, which is #### GOOD for someone on the road for their first year. The most important thing is to approach these companies with the right attitude. Tell yourself that you're going to have to bite the bullet and be a slave for the first year. Pretend it's an extended boot camp that comes with free training and decent pay. After you're on the road for 6 months, 9 months, or a year, talk to another company and upgrade your career. Don't expect any starter-company to be perfect, and you'll probably have to bend over more than once for them, but it's way better than being one of those gerbils in the Driver's Solution treadmill.
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Mister, You just changed my mind as well as part of my life. Thanks

Davidf777 · Mar 25, 2013

Thanks for the info!

bradleyaskey13 · Mar 26, 2013

good info on here first time posting was gonna go with pam and c1 could have swore I read that once you go solo you start at .26 cpm and going over a checklist before I can go further notice it says only 17 1//2 cpm. I guess alot of the stuff I read was outdated, they won't even pay for you to get up there. Still doing more research on starter companies, almost had myself talked into it and biting the bullet.

themoj0 · Mar 27, 2013

bradleyaskey13 said: ↑

good info on here first time posting was gonna go with pam and c1 could have swore I read that once you go solo you start at .26 cpm and going over a checklist before I can go further notice it says only 17 1//2 cpm. I guess alot of the stuff I read was outdated, they won't even pay for you to get up there. Still doing more research on starter companies, almost had myself talked into it and biting the bullet.
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the PAM pay is so low because you run teams at first.

Tusk · Mar 27, 2013

I was accepted to Pam, however waiting on Millis seems to be the best fit for me. Prime you have to ride with another driver for a longer period after schoo,l but looks good as well from what I've researched. Also, I have the money to pay a private school and this was my 1st option, what swayed me was immediate job placement, sure I could go hustle up something but in a learning phase and just selling my home made long haul seem like the wiser choice. Gotta put in the time somewhere.

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