Need Opinions on this driver (video).

Discussion in 'Questions To Truckers From The General Public' started by Infamous El Guapo, Aug 17, 2011.

  1. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    My opinion of this driver is about the same as any other driver that tapes his/her journeys.



    I'll just leave it at that.
     
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  3. Ridgerunner665

    Ridgerunner665 Road Train Member

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    That driver is an idiot...no arguing that (just a poor attitude)

    But about his speed...Lots of drivers are scared in heavy rain, too scared...Just a few months ago on I40 just west of West Memphis, AR there was a pretty bad storm. Very heavy rain, 60-70 mph wind, it was night...I was moving along at about 50 mph, in the left lane and I caught up with another truck that finally just STOPPED...right there in the fast lane.

    I got on the ole CB and asked what was going on (nicely)...and he said "I can't see anything..."

    Well, for some folks at night, in the rain...that is understandable...but you don't stop in the middle of the interstate because of it. I went around him and cruised on down the road...it was a bad storm, blew several trucks over in the median even...but you don't just stop in the middle of the road like that!

    I expect stupid moves from 4 wheelers...but we are supposed to be professionals, capable of making good decisions.

    In weather like is in the video...you could usually find me in the left lane too when I was pulling a flat bed...now that I'm back in heavy haul...you'll find me parked somewhere until the storm is over. (permits are invalid during that kind of weather)
     
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  4. Infamous El Guapo

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    From what I can tell, the driver that swerved to the right was the same driver on the radio that gave the heads up about cars stopping under the overpass just past the 28 exit. Sounded like same voice.

    You could see the exit, then the overpass, with the cars and the truck on the right slowing down.

    The filming truck appeared to come right up on this scene, and just tried to blow by on the left. It did seem like the truck in the right lane came over with no warning, but if the other guy hadn't been flying by, he could have most likely avoided the swerving truck.

    He clearly HEARD the conditions ahead on the CB coming up.

    In fact I was anticipating a nice sideswipe when I saw the truck come over. Luckily they averted that.

    The driver from the right did cuss him out royally, but the retort from the other driver just seemed to me to be asking for his butt to be kicked at some later time.

    I understand that some drivers feel like a downpour or approaching tornado is nothing to slow em down.

    But thankfully most of you who have responded so far agree that conditions can be bad enough that even though you are confident in your abilities to handle it, many others on the road will adjust for the conditions, and the surrounding traffic who may be more prudent, scared, or slowed down.

    I can NEVER understand people who stop under overpasses on the insterstate. Even if just for heavy rain or hail, too many cars can congest the road or cause issues, and they should NOT stop there.

    Even though the truck on the right slowed, something or someone must have been in the lane to make him swerve over.

    I do believe IMHO, that the guy who was filming was more of a danger, and not aware of his surroundings, even WITAH the radio reports coming in on the CB, and still think wow this could have been a tragic avoidable accident had he just calmed down and slowed down.

    I also understand the constraints and the need to "get er done" and get the delivery there on time etc etc...but is it worth it in those conditions?

    Im pretty sure it would be understood that you were travelling on I-44 at such and such time, as an EF5 tornado was passing through Joplin, and you decided it best to slow down to stay safe. Especially when you hear the road is shut down ahead of you anyway.

    I just hope you guys and gals stay safe out there. A lot of people do appreciate the hard work you do, and we want you to stay around! So take care.

    I saw that American Truckers videos, and for a 21 year old, he seems to drive like a real professional, safely. I was kind of shocked that they had truck drivers his age. (Not sayimg that is a bad thing AT if you read this). Just you expect younger males to be more aggressive or carefree behind the wheel. You seem to do well, in your videos at least...LOL.

    So thanks for the input so far folks.

    I was curious as to how many of you if in that same situation would track the filming driver down for a more "intimate discussion" if he was located down the road a piece.:biggrin_255:
     
  5. Mud Dog

    Mud Dog Tattooed & Insane - Forum Sparkler

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    its a wonder someone didnt find that driver somewhere down the road.... layin on his side.... im a young driver but if i drove like that id kick my own #####
     
  6. Injun

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    I'm from the Northwest. Rain and high winds are no strangers to me. Ice and snow are no strangers. Ice is different in the Northwest. More slippery. Partly because of general ambient conditions and partly because our DOTs do not use salt. They use sand instead. Which is one reason I would prefer to drive upper midwest in winter if I have to drive in ice and snow.

    All of that said, even with my familiarity with these conditions and confidence in my equipment and abilities, I do not lose respect for weather events. I will probably be one of the left lane gang in rain and wind. It's just water to me. However, I will not blow past other drivers at twice their speed. I may go 10 mph faster, but that would be about it. I can't think of any good reason to blast by and scare the crap out of people who are already white-knuckling their steering wheels. That would mean four-wheelers and novice big-truck truckers alike.

    I know how it felt my first winter out, in Upstate New York in my first whiteout. Northwest snow is usually too wet and heavy to cause a whiteout without extremely high road closure winds. That whiteout had me scared. I was the one creeping along at 15mph. Then there was the thundersnow storm I got in the middle of in Illinois. I never knew such a thing existed. Again, 15mph behind everyone else in the granny lane, to the first safe parking area. And watch the beautiful, incredible storm for most of the night.

    Point is, I know how it feels to be suddenly in a situation that scares me, no way to get out of it until I reach the next exit and people with either more "confidence" than me or who are just plain ol' cowboy-courage, not-a-lick-of-sense dummies fly past me at dry highway speed cussing because of all the rest of us in the granny lane. Some would say he or she knows how to drive in it. I would say they are foolish regardless of experience level.

    There is a variable they are not considering in a situation like that: other drivers. Other drivers who may be prone to make mistakes. In a crash, it may be determined the other driver was at fault, but deep down within the faster driver's self, the knowledge is there that it could have been prevented and that he or she shares some of the responsibility. I don't want to be that driver.
     
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  7. labagiamf

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    Describing the left lane driver as "flying down the road" is subjective.
    Similar to the law I heard exists in Ohio,where LEO can ticket someone for appearing to be speeding.
    Left lane driver may or may not have been going to fast for conditions,but right lane driver (1) attempted to change lanes without signalling,and/or (2) did not look in his mirrors before attempting to change lanes.
    Right lane driver prevented what could have been a serious accident, had he not swerved back in the right lane, but to my mind,the accident which he prevented,was an accident that he would have caused,by not 1) signalling his intention to change lanes,&/or (2) checking his mirror. I would not give him any 'points' for preventing an accident.


    Concerning profanity, the second driver only gave back what he got.
    First driver described second driver as the performer of a certain act,and second driver replied by telling first driver to perform said act.
    If the first driver can be 'excused' for using such language in the first place,then second driver can be 'excused' for using similar language in response to being insulted.Yet only one is a cause for embarrassment? And for what its worth,the driver who used profanity first sounded like an older person,you know,not one of the 'new breed' or one from the ill-mannered younger generation,and he doesn't sound like a nationally known comedian. His stress level may have been to be too way too high. Maybe he was on a tight schedule and falling behind.
     
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  8. labagiamf

    labagiamf Light Load Member

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    A question.
    At an intersection in a 35mph zone,driver (a) "blows" through his green light at 45mph,while driver (b) carefully runs his red light at 25mph,who do you blame or blame more for the resulting accident?

    And it looks to me like the truck in the right lane did more than "seem" to try a lane change without warning. That truck DID try to change lanes without warning.
     
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  9. labagiamf

    labagiamf Light Load Member

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    And had the slower driver been leaving him or herself enough time and space to react to whatever he or she was trying to avoid,then it is likely that he or she would not have had to swerve into the adjacent lane without (1) signalling or (2) presumably checking his or her mirror.
    As slowly as that truck was going,the driver should have been able to see something ahead,and have enough time to at least check his/her mirrors before attempting to change lanes.
    It can be argued that as slow as the driver in the right lane was going,he still was going to fast,hence the need to perform a risky move of changing lanes without (1) signalling,and/or (2) looking in his/her mirror.
    Not very professional in my opinion.
    Maybe the slower moving driver deserves as much as ,or at least some condemnation, as the driver in the left lane,instead of the commendation which seems to be going to him/her.
     
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  10. labagiamf

    labagiamf Light Load Member

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    10 mph faster than others,instead of twice their speed might still be too fast, and you could still appear to be one of the people you describe in the second of your quoted paragraphs.
     
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  11. jakecat22

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    If the speed limit is 55 mph, but traffic is only moving at 25 mph, I was always taught that the safe speed is the speed traffic is moving at, in this case, the slower speed. It is not safe to do 55 mph if traffic is moving at 25 mph, especially in those conditions.
     
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