Need some direction, weight restrictions through Indiana & Ohio?

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  1. KellerAg

    KellerAg Bobtail Member

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    We are a farm located in southeast Michigan. We're looking to haul mushroom mulch from either Illinois (thru Indiana and Ohio) or from Ontario, CA back to Michigan. Was hoping to get some insight into weight restrictions in those states from some experts because Google searches just leave me confused. Also was wondering if anyone had any idea what type of trailer would be best to haul this material. We would like to get the best bang for our buck obviously with heavy loads while also staying legal. At this point I'm thinking a walking floor type of trailer but I'm not sure how many axles it needs to remain legal while also hauling around 100k pounds. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks.
     
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  3. Arctic_fox

    Arctic_fox Experienced mx13 execrator

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    Depends on equipment assumeing standard off the shelf semi setup though your going to want a standard 18 wheeler.

    Hopper bottom, walking floor or end dump would work for that. Hopper is easiest if your doing a conveyor or pit dump, walking floor is best if you have obstructions overhead but need it in a bin and dont want to push it with a loader, end dump is best at doing a bit of everything else though needs flat ground. Max is going to be 80,000 without special permits most likely unless there is a multi state ag permit i am unaware of which is not unlikely because i dont do a lot of multi state AG work.

    Max axle weight is going to depend on the type/length of trailer and truck. 48 foot split axle end dump for example can go 38K on the rears vs 34K for a standard tandem as long as the gap on the split axle is iirc 8 foot between the axles. Truck is always going to be 12500 (many say 12 just to avoid issues) on the steer axle and 34K on the truck tandems unless you get into pushers or tri axle trucks which are unnessesary unless your going to do a lot of overweight loads and just subtract from your overall payload if your going to do 80k or even 85500 where permitable with a split axle.
     
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  4. KellerAg

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    We have run two axle end dump trailers in the past and haven't been able to get enough material in a timely manner to make it worth the trip. So that's why I am wondering about what we need to get into that 100k pound range so that we move more material per load. If we are trying to haul 100k from Ontario, Canada we should go with some type of triple axle trailer and would need a permit that makes us legal both in Michigan and Ontario?
     
  5. Arctic_fox

    Arctic_fox Experienced mx13 execrator

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    @D.Tibbitt or @motocross25 might know, i think they have done AG in the past? I have no clue for overweight ag loads. Thats not really a thing ive done a lot of.
     
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  6. D.Tibbitt

    D.Tibbitt Road Train Member

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    I'm not really sure what that would take, dump is a little out of my area of expertise. @abyliks may have some knowledge about it
     
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  7. abyliks

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    80k is going to be it in the states unless you have a “friend” that’s going to straight outlaw, 40’ frameless is going to be the lightest trailer that you can bridge the full amount on, spread you can obviously load the trailer more on but a closed tandem is a smidge lighter, i would probably do a spread with a coil package so you can run out with something else if you really needed to

    canadia and Michigan you will need axles to add weight, 8 in Canada I think gives you 140k and 11 in MI gives you 164k, but Ohio and Indiana won’t let you in over, (legally)

    anything overweight in Michigan is 13k per axle,
     
  8. roundhouse

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    I think Canada and Michigan both allow over 80k legally.
    I see a lot of rigs with more than five axles etc in both places .

    I also think it depends on the season ?
    More weight is allowed in the winter ?

    the other states won’t allow over 80 with a divisible load .
    , and mulch would certainly be easily divisible

    do you already have tractors and drivers ?
     
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