Need some opinions on my trainer

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by bhicks1226, Mar 25, 2017.

  1. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    Why does the 'law' have to step in, we can't demand better?

    How about the companies themselves set a standard?

    Before you say anything, those are rhetorical questions.

    Because this industry is so fractured and we don't give a crap about fixing it, then may be the FMCSA needs to step in and set the standards to make those companies actually train, not just have ride alongs.
     
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  3. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    The law needs to step in because the companies won't do it otherwise.
     
  4. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    There you go, then we should be talking to the FMCSA to get something done, right?
     
  5. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    I have quite a few times.Doesn't do any good.What I'm saying is as long as trucking exist there will always be poor training at bottom feeder companies.
     
  6. austinmike

    austinmike Road Train Member

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    I wouldn't have put up with a fraction of that nonsense. Get a new trainer ASAP
     
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  7. Wooly Rhino

    Wooly Rhino Road Train Member

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    Patty this is the first time I have had to question you. Did you vote for Hillary or did the Russians change your vote to the Donald?

    The OP problem is one that all of us face. It is a lack of communication. The OP is angry at the trainer but has there been communication between the two of them. He should sit the trainer down for a cup of coffee and just explain his concerns. He should try to work it out but if he can't he should tell the trainer he would like to try working with another person. The trainer may have reasons for not having a working apu or radio. Could be the company doesn't believe it is a problem but if the two of them worked together they could get it fixed.

    Trainers are just truck drivers. They are trying to make a living for their families just like we are. Give them a chance to improve by offering them communication.
     
  8. tinytim

    tinytim Road Train Member

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    How long is the training period? If it's only for a short time I'd say just get it done. Otherwise ask for a new trainer and don't be shy about expressing your concerns with the current one, he shouldn't be 'training' based on what you describe.

    You have a crappy trainer, nothing unusual about that unfortunately. The real learning comes once you're on your own anyway. Learn what you can from the guy, whether it's what to do or what not to do, read a lot here and ask questions.
     
  9. Fatmando

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    I believe that there may also be a legal definition... CR England got into some sort of trouble for differentiating "Phase I" and "Phase II" using the word "training", while I was one of their trainers. I could not get a clear explanation as to what happened, but we were instructed to remove references to "training" from our vocabulary, for "Phase II" students. (Phase I students had shiny new CDLs, and Phase IIs had a couple of weeks on the road, under their belts, with a Phase I trainer.) The training and evaluation materials, activities, and procedures still applied, but as I recall, Phase II was now a team driving phase, and not considered "training".

    If I had to venture a guess, I'd say that they ran afoul of the semantic difference, in some liability lawsuit, somewhere, and decided that it was easier to change the language, than the substance of their training programs...
     
  10. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    Isn't that funny not haha how a few words can get you in trouble
     
  11. Fatmando

    Fatmando Medium Load Member

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    Well... the legal system does have a fairly sharp drop-off at the edge of trouble...

    The thing about it is, that if a few words describing the way that you bring new people into your company, are enough to make that kind of a difference, then you were probably bringing the new people in, the wrong way, to being with.

    I'm by no means certain of my assessment as to what happened, but if my assessment is accurate, it was the quality of the training program that would have been the source of the problem. It's description merely highlighted the problem. By changing the description instead of the content of their training program, they demonstrated theIr incapacity to run a training program effectively, in the first place.

    Like the drunk driver who argues in court that his blood alcohol content was rising while he was waiting to be tested; they missed the point. If an accident resulted from inadequate training, then improve the training. Don't just stop calling it training, and allow it to continue to be inadequate.
     
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