Need Your opinion if this is good business deal

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by huntepr1, Jan 24, 2020.

  1. rachi

    rachi Road Train Member

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    Take the advice and forget about it. Save yourself alot of money and stress.
     
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  3. SteveScott

    SteveScott Road Train Member

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    Take a look at his books and profit/loss statements for the last couple years. If he's being honest, he won't have a problem with you looking.
     
  4. huntepr1

    huntepr1 Bobtail Member

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    Thanks, I didnt know to ask that question, but I will.
     
  5. huntepr1

    huntepr1 Bobtail Member

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    He is looking for another box truck right now. He actually got started by someone looking out for him. I have also helped him out when he needed it. I guess he figures, hell we have this thing going and wanted to see if I would like the opportunity.
     
  6. Swine hauler

    Swine hauler Medium Load Member

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    Do your math, being sure to include every single expense. Don't just look at the obvious expenses.

    Here is a partial list:
    Cost of vehicle on a per- mile basis, estimating life expectancy (mileage)
    Cost of fuel
    Cost of vehicle insurance
    Cost of cargo/ commercial use insurance
    Driver pay
    Driver per diem
    Drivers SS contribution
    Drivers Workmans Comp
    Drivers unemployment Comp
    Driver benefits such as holiday, sick, vacation pay, and health benefits.( Assuming you are not running a sweat shop, and actually allow the driver to lead a dignified life, not unlike yourself).

    Cost of tolls
    Cost of maintenance
    Cost of tires
    Cost of downtime

    80% of 2700 is $2160, or 72 CPM
    On a per mile basis i calculate approximately 70 CPM for your expenses. Netting you 2 pennies per mile. Or 60 bucks.

    Not exactly a get rich scheme.
     
  7. rachi

    rachi Road Train Member

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    One accident and your gonna loose everything you have. Truckers including vans and box trucks get sued for big awards more then anybody.
     
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    huntepr1 Bobtail Member

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    I know they are not doing all of that for their drivers. Unless they are 1099 the drivers I am not sure. I will see how they are doing it and thanks for the advice.
     
  9. Swine hauler

    Swine hauler Medium Load Member

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    But sir, those driver expenses have to be covered. Whether you cover them as an employer, or you pay them an amount sufficient enough that they can cover them, and still put food on the table.

    There is a certain obligation here, yes?


    otherwise you are just another greedy scumbag sweat shop. ( not suggesting that YOU are, because I don't pretend to know your motive, just speaking generally.)

    it's all a cost of doing business. Legitimately.
     
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  10. Ridgeline

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    If you did that, then I would say you need to learn more, if you never did that, try it.

    A van load out to cali sounds great but getting work back to a good area, not likely.
     
  11. xsetra

    xsetra Road Train Member

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    To add to the list.
    Because these aren't sleeper equipped trucks. Hotel costs would be a large expense, OTR.
    During an inspection the driver could be asked for receipts for places they slept.
     
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