Never drive for a company that starts you out below .40 cents a mile!

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by tahokid, Jan 22, 2015.

  1. Rooster1291979

    Rooster1291979 Road Train Member

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    Would you rather have a part time job at $50 an hour, or a full time job at $25? Same money with less work is usually the desired option.
     
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  3. wsyrob

    wsyrob Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Yep. Take 2 guys who both make 60K per year. One runs OTR and is out 300 days per year. The other guy is only out 250 days per year. The first guy gets 65 days off. The second gets 115. Who has a better lifestyle.

    A better measure would be $$$ per day for the number of days you are willing to give to a trucking company.
     
  4. tahokid

    tahokid Light Load Member

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    I would rather work for 50.00 an hr. full time. And it could happen if there weren't so many folks driving for crumbs out here.

    Its sad when driver in most cases today can't come nowhere near what they made in 1970 all based on cost of living.

    Popular Mechanics May 1970 issue. Google it. My dad owned 6 trucks back then, you made enough to afford a real business then.
    Some ops made as high as $35,000 back then driving half the miles we do today. How much more do we all as a whole need to give? Itll never be enough.

    $30,000 in 1970 was equal to $182,000 today, all according to the federal Bureau of labor and statistics. I don't know of any deal out there anywhere you can gross that after all expenses.
    My point here is if newbies continue to come in this industry and drive for food, we all as a whole are going to suffer and if your making under .40 cents a mile as an exp. op. Well I guess you have other reason outside of money.
     
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  5. TNMT

    TNMT Light Load Member

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    No I'm not saying a decrease in pay. Just the average pay across the board for all cpm yearly pay for drivers is piss poor. 50 per year is 50 per year the higher cpm only makes the pain more bearable. The only way is to raise they yearly pay. If thats a higher cpm that does it well thats fine. Just saying the average yearly pay has been stagnant for a long time and thats with a increase in cpm by most companies. Companies know how much per year they want their average driver to make. Usually based on how much do they have too in order to get drivers. Not what you're actually worth. Same thing with lease purchase. They know how they have to structure it to get drivers to sign up. They know what % of those lease drivers need to be successful. How many have to make it to be bait to get others to do it and also how many have to be successful or fail to make a profit off of it.
    NObody is doing you a favor. Businesses use commodities to make a profit. Drivers are the commodity. Drivers have yet to figure out how to charge for the use of their resources. In most cases drivers are being striped mined.
     
  6. tahokid

    tahokid Light Load Member

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    I agree with pretty much all of that. Its not all about going backwards drivers need to figure out, its forward. And trainers out there that train newbies to take these bottom feeder jobs are in the end going to find out they are only cutting their own throats in the end.
     
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  7. Vilhiem

    Vilhiem Road Train Member

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    I wouldn't say I got a terribly raw deal, but I get paid to unload the truck. I'm working off 32 cpm, BUT 45$ for an unload.

    I know I could get more, but this fits with my long term goals better.

    That being said. You aren't the only industry where this occurs, and it isn't only the newbie drivers who are at fault. You can very likely put a great deal of blame on consumers. Now everyone wants something for nothing, that means someone has to make a sacrifice to make it happen. Often enough these companies will #### on their workers first.

    What that means is... If you use a rewards program, coupons, or take advantage of deals... You are also contributing to a lower cpm. Just food for thought! :)
     
  8. TNMT

    TNMT Light Load Member

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    The average yearly income for truck drivers is $35,000 to $45,000 for company drivers,
    That should be 60 to 75 per year if not higher.
     
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  9. JoeBear

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    I'd say your right, however some drivers can't be hired on to some of the top paying rookie companies due to previous life experiences... Felony for example or a misdiminor can't spell it but you get the idea most times they're over 10 yrs ago, when they didn't have any sense in their head to not do dumb ####. I almost didn't get the job I have now because I get VA disability... And no it doesn't interfere with my job nor do I have PTSD thank god. On a personal note it really is none of the companies business why I get disablity but in all matters always have to fill out some paper work for your veteran status. They kept asking nonsense questions about why I received it... Told them I get it because I grind my teeth at night which is true but I think it's completely unecessary for me to go into it further because it's none of their ####ing business. Sorry for rant it just tans my hide over that kind of ####. Those top paying companies refuse to hire them based on what was 10 yrs ago or frivolous BS like "oh he gets disability he'll prolly try and get some kinda workers comp..." Nope that would be a veterans waste of time...Gah I'm getting worked up over nothing.

    So sometimes you have to take it down so to speak so you can come up. However I'm grateful for the job I have and the 41cpm I have with less than 1 yr experience, I'd love to be home more than every 2 months. Once I get my full 2 yrs in I'll look for something better till then I'm in the same struggle just had a better start than others.
     
  10. tahokid

    tahokid Light Load Member

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    Well you being paid .32 a mile and all the hourly pay at 45.00 an hour, if you get enough hours in on-duty time, you could possibly make more than those at .45 cents per mile. You are being paid for other outside of driving. Most carriers dont pay driver unload and load. And if they do, it 45.00 for 5 hrs, were theyll pay a lumper 400.00 for the same job if they need him to do it and the driver doesnt want to unload for poverty wages.
     
  11. rank

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    If anyone is earning in the thirties, it's because that's all they're worth. IME, people get what they deserve in life.
     
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