New and Re-manufactured Engines....

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Miami Trucker, Jan 19, 2013.

  1. Miami Trucker

    Miami Trucker Light Load Member

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    O.K.,I don't know quite how to state this Question,so bear with me....

    I basically wanted to know....For Example : I go out and Buy a Used Cascadia. ( and in your case Pick ANY Truck Model you like ).

    If after a few Years the Engine has Died !....Instead of Buying a another Used,or ' Re-manufactured ' Engine....

    Can I Go DIRECTLY To Detroit Diesel, and ask them If there NEW Engine say it's 2018,and I have a 2008 Cascadia.

    Can that 2018 Engine Ft into My 2008 Frame ?....YES I know Nobody has a crystal ball,and with Technology CONSTANTLY Changing !


    I'm just asking to Go by DEDUCTIVE REASONING.... If it's Safe to assume,Just like in Cars,that you can keep Changing the Engine's No Matter what Year it is ?

    I Hope you Understand My Question ?.....Keep on Truckin'....
     
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  3. muledriver

    muledriver Light Load Member

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    I would think that would not be cost effective you would have to update all the emissions systems as well .
     
  4. Ezrider_48501

    Ezrider_48501 Road Train Member

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    just rebuild what you already have, ie in frame or out of frame rebuild.
     
  5. JohnP3

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    The engine replacement is not going to be a problem you may need a bigger radiator and CAC, you would want to ask at a Freightliner dealer. Give them you serial number and they should be able to give you the information, it may take a few days.
    Just a thought!
     
  6. JohnP3

    JohnP3 Road Train Member

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    The engine replacement is not going to be a problem you may need a bigger radiator and CAC, you would want to ask at a Freightliner dealer. Give them you serial number and they should be able to give you the information, it may take a few days.
    Just a thought!
     
  7. Guntoter

    Guntoter Road Train Member

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    Why would you spend $40,000 on a new engine in a million mile truck? You will soon need new rears ($15,000) and a new transmission ($8,000). You wouldnt want to put reman parts behind a NEW engine (whats the point in a new engine if you do that). Soon you have $100,000 into a truck with 2,000,000 miles. I would understand if it was a show quality Pete or a sentimental thing (Dads old truck etc...).
    Just go buy new.
     
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  8. fisher guy

    fisher guy Road Train Member

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    why on earth would u want a new engine anyway with all the emition crap thats out there most people and companies big and small are trying to go with older engines that are rebuilt

    but to answer ur quession yes u can buy a brand spankin new engine straight from the factory but it will cost u big bux. my boss had recently had a c-15 cat rebuilt by cat well they made a mistake when rebuilding it and some how some way it cracked the block well some how some way dont ask me details as i really dont know cat backed up they're warenty big time and gave us a brand spankin new c-15 crate engine straight from the factory minus all the emition (sp) crap i saw the crate it came in and was stamped all over it "NEW" not "REMAN"

    i'm guessing when i say this but cat probally just dug deep in the warehouse and found this motor collecting dust somewhere in the corner as i didnt see the serial number so i cant tell u what year it was built
     
  9. Cowpie1

    Cowpie1 Road Train Member

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    And by that time, the expected life of the engine would be past the EPA requirements and you could probably go with a pre-egr rebuild crate engine. The life expectancy for EPA requirements is 10 years or 435,000 miles whichever is longer. After that point, the engine is not under EPA requirement to meet emissions specs of original engine design. Could rebuild the one you got, do an ECM reprogram to delete emissions stuff, and run on.

    http://www.epa.gov/otaq/standards/heavy-duty/hdci-exhaust.htm

    Heavy duty engine useful life is 22,000 hrs / 10 years / 435,000 miles. Hours take priority. If hours are reached before years/miles, then the standard then becomes 10 years/100,000 miles, whichever occurs first. So when you reach 22,000 hours on an engine, the EPA standards die off.
     
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  10. Oscar the KW

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    Did you find that on the EPA's website? If that is true then I don't need to worry about the fact my truck with over a million miles on it no longer has its catalytic converts/mufflers.
     
  11. Cowpie1

    Cowpie1 Road Train Member

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    Just edited post and thru in the EPA site information.
     
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