New Hours Of Service

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by m15063, Apr 4, 2013.

  1. EZX1100

    EZX1100 Road Train Member

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    they started with the air traffic controllers (i believe that was before faux news)
    then it was the UAW
    then the twinkie workers

    unions are bad, job creators are good, all hail the job creators!
     
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  3. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    There was a strike way back in the past. Not sure what was accomplished.

    They deregulated the freight and look what happened to the industry with the expansion.
     
  4. Cowpie1

    Cowpie1 Road Train Member

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    Only problem with unions is that after they form up to tackle problems that do need to be addressed, they grow and become full of themselves and start running amok to where they only serve the union hierarchy interests and not the workers who they claim to represent. Most unions become nothing more than money laundering operations for the political class.
     
  5. EZX1100

    EZX1100 Road Train Member

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    thats because WE sit on our butts and expect them to do an honest days work

    just like we treat our politicians, we rarely hold their feet to the fire, so they become ###### of the lobbyists

    same thing with unions or any other power structure, democracy is based upon the involvement of the people, if the people do not get involved, then it makes no difference whether we live in socialist, fascist, communist, because the people in power will always become corrupt unless they are kept in check

    and we dont keep them in check
     
  6. Dorsey

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    It's not going to stop until computers are actually operating the trucks.

    Whos going to pay for this eobr/elog crap to be put in my truck and to be repaired? Seems I can do the same thing with a paper log and I'm most certain to be waaaaaay cheaper. Just seems like another law to add money to another millionaires pocket while emptying mine with no added safety to the public who cuts me off and hits there brakes while doing so to get off at the upcoming exit when there was no one behind me for a mile. Sounds like to me from reading this thread I'll actually be cheating my logs much more with e-logs than I do with paper logs. Not that I do much cheating only driving 2,000-2,500 miles a week.


    The new HOS 30 minute break rule will be easy to incorporate(although another job security law)in my day. It's BS that I don't agree with but doable. Who ever came up with the new 34 hr reset needs to be shot in the head and it wouldn't cause much more damage to thier brain. Nothing's wrong with the current 34 hour reset and the new one doesn't add any safety. It adds more problems with schedules and sleep. It would seem to seriously affect the LTL carriers who drive at night and the 1-5 is they're working time. Also like someone stated earlier in this thread if I take my 34 reset on Sunday and get slack on work during the week and take a 34 on Thursday. It seems to me that my rest is as good on Thursday is as good as it was on Sunday.

    All these new rules are is JOB SECURITY! You know, they have to make it look like they're needed still.
     
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  7. ironpony

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    Well, ya know- none of this would be happening (elogs/EOBRs/more restrictive HOS rules) if the supertruckers would drive within the law instead of hammering down for 20 hours, napping for a few, then hammering down for another 20 hours with a falsified log book or 3. Enough of them have been caught at the scale house over the years, or after the fact in the wreckage at the side of the road that the powers what be have decided we're all log book criminals and need a healthy dose of legal restraint.
     
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  8. Cowpie1

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    Now, I usually am not one to go down that path, but in regard to a industry wide EOBR mandate, you are probably more right than wrong, that it is just a way for folks to line their pockets making the things (of course, with some of that also lining some politician's pocket) and nothing substantive to do with safety. I can only go along with the EOBR thing on those that show a propensity for flagrantly, and I mean FLAGRANTLY, violate the hours of service. Those guys are a danger. You know, the running 3 log book crowd. A guy I know that is a friend of my step daughter and her fiancé, just laid a truck over a week ago and it was found he was running 3 logs. Now it is not a stretch to say the reason he got into a position to lay the truck over because his judgement was impaired due to not resting properly.

    The 30 min break thing, doubt that a year from now very many people have a terrible time with it. And only those that have never lived in a trucking world WITHOUT a 34 reset, will be wondering what has happened to their world if they can't do a reset. Those of us that have more of our lives driving during a time when there was no reset option will just revert to the recap we did for so many years.
     
  9. RickG

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    If the OOIDA hadn't interfered , EOBR's would have just been mandatory for serious violators . Thanks to them all trucks will have them per the Highway Bill .
     
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  10. Aimstraight

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    This. And the technology is actively being worked on today. With several companies in several countries competing to come up with the best designs. Google built a car that drove itself down the Las Vegas Strip. Nevada was the first state to issue a permit for 'autonomous vehicles'. Similar vehicles have been developed in Germany and England.

    Today the technology is in it's infancy. But give it 30 years (maybe 20) and the truck driver, the taxi driver, the bus driver will be quaint memories of the past.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/eco-nomics/2012/09/25/self-driving-cars-will-take-over-by-2040/
    http://www.examiner.com/article/self-driving-robotic-cars-for-seniors-are-the-works
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/google/9252275/Googles-robot-cars-pass-driving-test.html
     
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  11. landstar8891

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    Wrong Again.This was a Government Money grab just like farming,ranching,tobacco companies and now The Guns.They ''market'' and preach safety safety safety and it's all B/S and part of the Brainwashing..Key Word here is ''Brainwashing''..

    If you follow the ''money'' trail you will see what this is really about.Better yet i wish i was a fly on the wall as they have there Terrorist ''meetings'' at the White House Terrorist Facility..:biggrin_2556:
     
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