New Hours Of Service

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by m15063, Apr 4, 2013.

  1. landstar8891

    landstar8891 Road Train Member

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    Have you ever seen the ''robots'' at Anhieser Bush loading the trailers...:biggrin_2559:Alot of workers got sold out and tossed under the bus with the robots...
     
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  3. skateboardman

    skateboardman Road Train Member

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    lol, lol,lol
     
  4. Cowpie1

    Cowpie1 Road Train Member

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    You had me until you went down the farming/ranching thing. Anyone who has any real understanding of agriculture knows that there is not a pile of government money being sucked up by farmers. There has not been a grain price subsidy paid out this century! That's right... grain prices have been above the price support threshold for all of the 21st century!

    And if you try to use the farm bill as an argument, over 80%, that's right, over 80% of the farm bill is targeted towards the food stamp program alone! That has absolutely zero to do with what farmers/ranchers get. The 20% that is left is used to run the agency, supply food inspectors, and a laundry list of other things that have nothing directly to do with farmers/ranchers. When it comes right down to it, of the farm bill, only ballpark +/- 10% of the farm bill actually goes towards any actual farm programs, and many of those have to do with environmental things like erosion control and water quality and farming.

    An uninformed public is as much the problem as the political class is. Be watchful that you are not the one being brainwashed.

    As far as the EOBR thing, then you would be correct in putting this in the category of some form of money grab and carriers using the government to restrict the operations of other carriers. I would say, more the latter than the former. After all, the primary motivation of the so-called Alliance For Driver Safety and Security is the EOBR mandate and 65 mph limiters on commercial vehicles. This group's founding members and primary supporters are these carriers... Knight, US Xpress, Maverick, Schneider, and JB Hunt. Boyd Brothers recently signed on also. So much for it truly being an alliance for driver safety and security.
     
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  5. Rocks

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    Next will be the speed limiters mandate... meanwhile, all non-commercial vehicles, 4-wheelers and such are allowed to go sometimes 20 miles above trucks, ie. California... I have been driving a big truck for only 5 yrs which is not very long and I am getting sick and tired of getting so over regulated, and elog and hrs restrictions, etc etc all in name of "safety" when I see most of the accidents are caused by 4-wheelers... :biggrin_25510:
     
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  6. Rocks

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    ...and what about those Mexican trucks that will be entering the US? Are they going to follow American HOS as well? Are our rules going to be enforced on them like they are on us?
     
  7. ironpony

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    Yup, they are following our rules. "All those trucks?" There's been hardly any interest by Mexican carriers in coming up here.
     
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    We shall see my dear Ironpony... we shall see...
     
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  9. Dorsey

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    Do the mexican carriers have any special rules? Can they run loads for a month and go home or is it just in and right back out? Do they have to speak, read, and right English?
     
  10. Cowpie1

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    Ah, but those of us that are not afraid to learn technological tricks already are prepared for the 65 mandate. A little known bypass on that is the Driver Rewards setting in the ECM available to most every truck engine. If you know how to set it right, it will allow up to 20 mph above the speed limiter. If anyone plugged in, it would show the speed limiter set at 65, but the truck could actually do 85. Many of those running Canada have figured this out a long time ago.

    For over 3 decades, I have heard the same complaints you are making. Nothing changes but the names and the faces.
     
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  11. Cowpie1

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    Mexican trucks have to abide by the same HOS rules we have. The have an EOBR mandate. Also, the regulations allow them to haul a load in, haul a load out. Just like Canadian trucks. Regulations do not allow for out of country truck to haul between two points in the US, though we all know it has happened in the past. We have the same requirement on us when we haul outside the US. I have no clue on the english requirement. Not sure how they could really get by very long without knowing a little.

    Ironpony is right, there has not been a lot of mexican carriers chomping at the bit to get trucks into the US market. Actually DOT was disappointed at the lack of response to having Mexican trucks enter US beyond the 20 mile zone. They have to meet the same requirements regarding licensing, drug and alcohol random testing, truck/equipment standards, etc, etc, etc, that it is just not worth it to a lot of them. Heck, we think it is a hassle. They think it is a nightmare.
     
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