New IC contract. What do you think?

Discussion in 'Schneider' started by sadwar, Aug 17, 2015.

  1. redoctober83

    redoctober83 Road Train Member

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    It almost sounds like we are better off getting our own authority so we could run freight for whoever we want to, including Schneider. The new contract does allow for us to run freight for someone else for a short time and then turn right around and run theirs.

    I see a lot of language that was changed from "charge back" to "IC payments". Yes a few things changed and added like the ambiguous 100 mile trailer move and then no longer paying for our medical examination or drug tests, but a lot of that is because of trying to put a clearer separation between us being employees or independent contractors. Then of course in there effort to make that separation in some parts of this agreement they make it looks like we are employees in other parts by requiring us to do trailer shuttles after we have agreed to a load that didn't show a trailer shuttle listed as part of the load. They will need to figure out how to list that a trailer shuttle is needed on a the load board because just changing the task list after we booked the load would be a breach of contract.
     
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  3. TennMan

    TennMan Road Train Member

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    It's not a breach of contract it's clearly stated were required to do trailer moves for a flat 25.00

    They won't add it between pick up or delivery as not to affect that load.

    It's added before so there's no option.

    They want us to still follow company policy just like a company driver. But for us to incur added costs.
     
  4. rickybobby

    rickybobby Road Train Member

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    This what I been saying all along... both parties can terminate the contract. With out that , I would be long gone. If I ever leave sni, I would not lease on with anyone else. I would reinstate my authority and buy me a used trl and hit the road.
     
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  5. oicu812

    oicu812 Medium Load Member

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    When they stopped paying for Kansas tolls, they said it is a "cost of doing business" on our part. I always felt that trailer shuttles were a "cost of doing business" on their part. They want it done cheap. It will cost them less than to have a company truck do it. Stand by to see more of it on our part.
     
  6. drvrtech77

    drvrtech77 Road Train Member

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    I got an email from from my ica stating that the charge will only come if you DO NOT COMMUNICATE with them. ..with that said, they can say whatever even in an email but it has to state that in the contract...
     
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  7. freightwipper

    freightwipper Road Train Member

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    ding ding ding! we have a winner!

    use that and play it good to your advantage.. I have and it worked every time!

    "I booked a load based on the information provided in the assignment, that's what I agreed to do.. by you CHANGING that it becomes no longer what I choose and agreed to do.
    Either change it back to what I agreed to do or pull the assignment off me and find somebody else to cover the load"

    Something along those lines.. depending on how pissed I am that words might be a little different lol.


    Worked every time!
    Thankfully that crap hasn't been tried on me often.
     
  8. TennMan

    TennMan Road Train Member

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    That's because the old contract didn't mention mt trailer moves.

    This one foes.
     
  9. freightwipper

    freightwipper Road Train Member

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    But supposedly they can fine you only if you skip the trailer shuttles during the assignment right?
    What if you tell Schneider to screw themselves and pull the load off you or change it back to what you agreed to..? Are they specific on that?

    cause a 250 mile $2 all miles load will suddenly suck if they tack on an extra 100 miles of ########
     
  10. TennMan

    TennMan Road Train Member

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    The load you pick is only from shipper to consignee with possible stops in between so if they change that you can argue.

    However the trailer move happens before the shipper which isn't part of the load it falls under the agreement they want us to sign now. 25.00 per trailer move BEFORE the load.

    Last agreement there was no agreement so if you refused there was no recourse they could take. NOW under new agreement once signed you're agreeing to do said trailer moves for 25.00 ar SNI discretion and if you don't then they could fine you.

    But because you agree when signing you have no ability to legally reject it and therefore take the risk of being fined.
     
  11. freightwipper

    freightwipper Road Train Member

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    If I don't do the trailer move per part of the load I could be fined.
    But does it say Schneider can fine us if we asked them to pull a preassigned load off us?
    Because basically that's what I did in the past, I told them change it back or pull the load off me.
    So thus if they say no then I refuse the changed preassignment and then would turn into simply having them remove a load off me before I start it let alone hit ""accept".
    They've yet to pull a load off me but instead gave in but they didn't like me very much when I said those things lol.
     
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