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New owner operator IFTA question

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by roberts11260, Jul 15, 2011.

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  1. Jul 15, 2011 #1
    roberts11260

    roberts11260 Bobtail Member

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    First off IFTA is just another way to extort money from truckers seeing how we pay taxes anytime we buy fuel. Every time im at a truck stop I have listened to other truckers say the exact same thing..

    My question is since being a owner operator I have not even used my truck yet, My IFTA just came in the mail so I called the Texas Comptroller and asked what I need to do since I have not even driven the new truck. They simply said just write zero miles on the form and check a X in the box an send it back in.

    Why does my agent want to charge me $50.00 to do what took me less then 4 seconds to do.

    Also my agent wants to charge me $150.00 per quarter. does this seem like a fair price?
     
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  3. Jul 15, 2011 #2
    bullhaulerswife

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    I do our IFTA. Its simple and you can set up an excel spread sheet to figure everything for you. Its not worth paying someone in my book. Also, The way that hubby would fuel, it only costs us a few bucks every quarter. I did have one quarter where we had a credit.

    Its just a matter of recording your miles, state miles and gallons purchased in each state. I wouldn't pay someone to do this for me. Not worth it.
     
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  4. Jul 15, 2011 #3
    Tazz

    Tazz Road Train Member

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    1: It is not extortion. It is making sure you pay for use of the roads.

    2: No agent required. Lot's of software and suggestions over in Ask an O/O for tracking reporting, and getting rebates on IFTA.

    3: When you say agent what service does he provide?
     
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  5. Jul 15, 2011 #4
    BigJohn54

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    If you fuel correctly, you should owe little or nothing.

    While I don't like paying taxes any better than anyone else, IFTA is not extortion. It is merely a method used to make sure each state gets their fair share of the taxes you already pay at the pump.

    You already have to track all the miles and gallons in each state. Why would you pay someone to put that information on a form and file it? As far as what they charge, if I were doing it I would charge what the market would bear.

    When I get started with my authority, I will not pay anyone anything to do my paperwork for me. To me the reason for running your own authority is to be in complete control and not leave any money on the table.
     
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  7. Jul 17, 2011 #5
    roberts11260

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    It is absolutely Extortion, 99% of all roads in North America were paid for by the late 70's.

    Now days there is way more than enough money coming in from Gas tax to repave all of the roads in North America 5X's.

    The money from IFTA and tickets from weigh stations is going to Gov Lake houses and private jets.. New Weigh stations, More employees for D.O.T.

    Sometime when you get a chance watch a little George Carlin [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJr_ggTeq64[/ame].

    Any trucker I have ever met or spoke with has one objective while on the road, and that is to get the load to the destination.

    Truckers want to have a safe truck to get there loads delivered, Truckers want to drive careful again to ensure the load gets delivered.Truckers want to secure a load properly to ensure the load is undamaged upon arrival to the customer.

    We really don't need all of these D.O.T. people handing out $thousand dollar tickets because a logbook is not up to date.

    As a owner operator I can tell you I am gonna have a truck that is fully functional so that I know my load will get delivered to my customer.

    For this is how I pay my bills, the money is the motivator for truckers to run safe trips.

    Has anyone ever stood in a weigh station in line?
    Look around and you will see truckers who just wanna deliver there load.
    The other day I was at a weigh station and the guy in front of me was pleading to the D.O.T. person. Saying "I only have 30 more miles to go to off load the rebar"

    This is ridiculous.

    Everyday we are losing more and more rights
     
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  8. Jul 17, 2011 #6
    roberts11260

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    FYI I am not terrorist and I love my country. Served in the Middle East in 2003 and am now a disabled Vet.

    I just believe in Liberty and Not Tyranny
     
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  9. Jul 17, 2011 #7
    Yatista

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  10. Jul 17, 2011 #8
    Injun

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    This is an excellent reason for people to work the industry for a while before going out and buying a truck. You can ask 100 drivers how IFTA works and 85 of them will be wrong. IFTA is not difficult to understand. Unless you ask a truck stop accountant...that is, truck driver. I created a thread addressing this very issue. If you can stoop so low as to go into the Swift forum, you will find the thread there. Only about the first three pages will be helpful. After that, the hecklers got involved. If you can't see yourself going to a Swift forum to learn stuff, it's your loss. I'm not going to repeat it here.
     
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  11. Jul 17, 2011 #9
    Roadmedic

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    Simple to make a spreadsheet to do it as well.
     
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  12. Jul 18, 2011 #10
    Tazz

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    So only cars should be taxed for their use of the roads. You do realize that is what IFTA is right? A fuel tax agreement?

    Now should it be used only for roads, and enforcemnt facilities? Absolutely! Doesn't change that you should be paying for the damamge your commercila vehicle is causing to public highways wich is why you pay a fuel tax, registration, FHUT...........




    Injun's right you better do some reading.
     
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