New rules coming regarding HOURS?

The only people I work for compensate me for my labor. If they did not I would not work for them.

Far to many claim they are holding out, leaving the industry, not going to take it anymore, eldorme twits that keep begging to be allowed to cheat for cheap wages, work twice as hard for a quarter of the money.........

Beg for a three hour extension instead of fixing the issues. Round and round it goes.

 

That about sums it up. I've wondered this myself several times.

 

How do you figure? The only challenges for an owner operator that different is he/she has to do the business side of it. If you're only talking about the driving part, there are no differences. I don't even really see the need to make any changes. Any change that they come up with is not going to make that big of a difference in my eyes. 14 hrs is pretty long day. Most owner ops try not to even work anywhere near that.

 

I think 14 hrs is plenty. I don't see what the difference is between a paper logs or eld anyway. The ones the want to cheat or have extended days are ones that don't really know how to work, or make their time more efficient. They are the guys that have to start and stop at the same time every day, and MUST sleep at a truck stop. Flexibility can be found in the 14 he rule if the driver isn't rigid. This is a 24/7 job meaning you better be ready to work at any time, and you better be ready to sleep at any time. I very much agree with your points made in this thread.

 

Maybe there are things the FMCSA doesn't undestand, but I think they do understand the concept of averages.

 

Owner ops can schedule their time as they see fit. Company drivers have their time managed for them. It makes a big difference. Also, the weekly rule (currently 70 hours) was originally implemented to protect drivers from certain types of abuse. OO's don't have to deal with that and shouldn't be subjected to the same "protection". Nowadays they say the 70 hour rule is supposed to prevent cumulative fatigue, whatever that is. Again, why should someone who is completely in charge of his own time be regulated in this way?

 

Because he is conducting his business on a public road. That being said I agree the 70 should go away for everyone.

 

I think you may have missed missed my point, or maybe I didn't make it well. I didn't mean to say OO's should not be subject to any rules. I was arguing against the assertion that the rules for OO's should have to be the same as the rules for company drivers.

BTW, I also think we should have different rules sets for different types of driving occupations. I don't believe OTR's should have the same rules set as the guys who deliver to convenience stores, or the guys who pull giant fan blades down the road. Forcing every driver to conform to a rule set that doesn't quite fit his job necessities does not improve safety or economic efficiency.

 

I'm with you on this one, more trucks, more freight and these incredibly stupid inflexible regulations. Playing beat the clock, and then throw in the parking situation and it all spells death and carnage. Safety my rear end.

 

Maybe but then you will end up with even more tedious, and ambiguous rules.

395 is based of 24 hour cycles, and applied evenly (well unless you buy an exemption in your farm subsidy bill) . The job itself does not care who owns the truck. They all have a steering wheel, some method of applying drive power to the rear wheels. There is not one segment exclusively company or O/O.