New truck list I'm looking at..

Do not.. I repeat do not buy that warranty from Arrow truck sales. You could wipe your backside with that money flush it and get more use out of it.

 

People still fall for it, sadly.

 

Yes def can be handled easily, this is true. The problem is to keep a def system from bankrupting you, you need to have a HUGE cash wad ready for when it starts to fail AND you need to maintain it properly and on schedule from day 1 to keep the costs reasonable. The problem is if you dont these systems #### the bed.

The main reason most of us say avoid buying a used emissions truck and either go new or pre emissions is not because these systems CANT be reliable. Its because 9 out of 10 used emissions trucks were owned by some mega that put the MINIMUM amount of effort into maintaining these trucks and likely just stopped once the warranty was gone and sent them on down the road for new ones as soon as they acted up. Whereupon the dealer will do the bare minimum to make them pass inspections.

That means when someone like me or you buys one of these trucks we got to go through and un#### the truck nose to tail which is VERY expensive and involves a LOT of tows and a LOT of down time and a LOT of money tracking down every #### error and problem. And then once the truck is back up to spec you still have a worn out emissions system that is going to get worse and worse and worse as time goes on and require larger and larger repairs.

Meanwhile if you had gotten old iron or new and shiny then odds are good you will have a functional truck for either the length of the warranty or which requires minimal repairs if you dont buy an old ratted out truck in dire need of a rebuild.

 

If buying a FL run it down to FL dealer and hookup the def system to computer and run it through a forced regen than ask to see the numbers are where they need to be along with filter accumulation levels. Pull maintenance records of course , has the egr been replaced or have any thing been replaced on aftertreatment system ? Alot of videos on how to replace sensors and problem shoot alot of issues are available.
I bought the OTR performance reset tool and it paid for itself in one use . Cleared code ,ran forced regen and kept truck moving. Well worth the investment .

 

Doesn’t the 07 w/Cummins still have a doser injector and particulate filter? Aren’t they problematic. Isn’t this the set up Rawze has become famous with patchwork fixes? Might as well go older. 07, 02 Whats another 5 yrs?

 

I think 02-04 Detroit’s only have an egr valve? Maybe 05, 06? Not sure. That’s nothing to replace every year or 2. Compared to the dpf, and def junk.